I think we need to bring this back to simple. 1) as FOSS not out to harm allwinnertech all FOSS want is conformance with license.
Reality here the two worst laws to break as a hardware vendor is copyright and trademark. Serous-ally. Both you can enforce by customs both can cause product destruction. This is pure nightmare because what would happen if a developer of the work decided to take the customs path a stack of product for one of allwinner customers would get to the board be ruled as contain copyright infringing work then crushed. This has happened to gameconsoles and other items in the past. The buyer is left out of pocket. Its basically a common mistake since FOSS does not act often that it does not have teeth. The reality most FOSS developers know they have the teeth to put a company out of business so try negotiation. https://libav.org/shame.html you will notice all the ones here are fairly much software companies. Developers don't have very effective teeth to go after software companies. Also remember even if the infringement is preformed by a sub-company the fact its on your device can make that device destroyable and you will be expected to get the compensation out the sub company that provided you with the infringing software. The reality is you are better to break patent law than trademark or copyright as hardware company. Something Allwinner take on board is release the source after the fact is an extremely bad idea. If you go to Intel and Amd you will notice they release the open source code before the chip ship. This means the chips cannot be destroyed at customs. You are only able to catch up with the source release after the fact because at this stage the FOSS developers are being kind. Siarhei Siamashka the case of the firmware not using the Linux kernel firmware loader what promises that we will not have that happen again. Is there staff training to make sure this does not happen again. Siarhei Siamashka there are compliance tools. http://www.linuxfoundation.org/programs/legal/compliance/tools Are you using them. If not please start using them. If you are using them please open bug reports for the cases that these issues got missed. http://www.binaryanalysis.org/en/home This tool is built particularly to allow FOSS developers to locate infringement in closed source binaries. Basically FOSS developers have tools to find infringement and they have made the tools for your side to detect infringement before it gets out the door. Please allwinner stop messing with them because when they do decide to hit it is going to hurt. I like your chips don't want to have the case that I have ordered something only to find its been crushed because you were infringing. Basically due to the tools it would have taken Luc Verhaegen bugger all effort to find the issue. Since it takes bugger all effort why did not the allwinner staff locate it. Maybe they are not tooled up correctly and maybe this is the cause of all the on going issues. If you can prove a fault with the FOSS compliance tool that it failed to detect it at least you have workable excuse and evidence that you attempted to be conforming but this still does not help you if developer has chosen to go the customs path to copyright enforcement. The best option is do not infringe and if you do don't just play it down have some decent explanation in a form of an operational failure of something or someone at least then the FOSS developers finding the problems walk way kind of ok and are unlikely to take it further. Peter Dolding -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "linux-sunxi" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
