On Fri, Aug 22, 2014 at 1:45 PM, Luc Verhaegen <[email protected]> wrote:
> On Fri, Aug 22, 2014 at 07:59:33PM +0300, Simos Xenitellis wrote:
>> Hi All,
>>
>> After the recent thread about interview questions to Allwinner,
>> https://groups.google.com/d/topic/linux-sunxi/OMe3pcilb3Y/discussion
>> I got an email from Kevin (Allwinner, Manager at Linux kernel development
>> group) and Sugar (Allwinner, Linux kernel development group) that they will
>> provide technical support to the community directly.
>> I cc: both of them in this mail.
>>
>> One of the important issues is that of the documentation and the
>> availability of official documentation for the Axx range of Allwinner SoCs.
>> So, I asked for that and got a reply that
>> 1. Allwinner has set up a team to deal with those documents.
>> 2. It will take a bit of time to produce the documents, and the first
>> delivery is expected in September.
>> 3. It will include a. user manual, b. datasheet and c. schematics
>> 4. From them on, once a document is ready, it will be released as soon as
>> possible.
>>
>> I think this is good news regarding the documentation, and I am looking
>> forward to the first delivery.
>>
>> The other issue is that of "mainlining", getting Allwinner chipset support
>> in the latest version of the Linux kernel. There is a wiki page for that,
>> at http://linux-sunxi.org/Linux_mainlining_effort
>> There are several drivers that need work, and I think it is best to start
>> off with something small.
>> I had a chat with Jon and he suggested (among others) LRADC.
>>
>> Regarding the LRADC, there is a patch by Hans de Goede,
>> http://lists.infradead.org/pipermail/linux-arm-kernel/2014-January/thread.html#222516
>> This patch was sent for inclusion to the mainline, but was not accepted yet.
>>
>> There is an older discussion here with comments on what to change,
>> https://groups.google.com/d/topic/linux-sunxi/Xq-egaBfzwA/discussion
>>
>> Would that be a good starting point? If so, click on the URL above and
>> continue the discussion.
>>
>>
>> Jean-Luc published today his interview with Allwinner (Ben-El Baz,
>> Marketing Manager) at
>> http://www.cnx-software.com/2014/08/21/interview-with-allwinner-regarding-their-linaro-membership/
>> (and also posted the link in another thread).
>>
>> In the comments at Jean-Luc's interview you can see Ben replying, and he is
>> willing to help.
>>
>> I think it is a positive interview and there is interest in Allwinner to
>> work with the community and get the latest version of the Linux kernel to
>> support the SoCs. It is a learning experience for them and I hope we start
>> solving all those pending issues.
>> What I find important is to start first with small but important issues so
>> that they get completed quickly, and we can figure out what works well in
>> this effort, and what we need to do better.
>>
>> It is a great opportunity, let's make the most out of it!
>> Simos
>
> First and foremost, the many GPL violations have to get resolved.

And just exactly how is this supposed to happen when Allwinner doesn't
own the IP and their IP license prevents release of the
code/documentation? It might be more productive to pursue the actual
companies causing the problem like ARM Inc withholding Mali.  A first
step here would be to determine if code is being withheld that
Allwinner has the ability to release.

One case might be the NAND controller driver. It is unclear if that is
Allwinner's IP or if it is licensed.  uboot release is likely this
same issue.

I'd like to see CedarX code released but there is no GPL violation
there because CedarX has not been released into a GPL environment. I
also don't see that the HawkviewISP library is a violation either
since it is also in user space. But I'd still like to see code for it
released.

We all know about Mali and release of Mali is not in Allwinner's control.

Is there source code for other kernel drivers being withheld?

>
> Luc Verhaegen.
>
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