Hi,

On 04/06/2014 07:28 PM, Siarhei Siamashka wrote:
> On Fri, 21 Mar 2014 04:27:19 -0700 (PDT)
> [email protected] wrote:
> 
>> Am Freitag, 21. März 2014 11:16:04 UTC+1 schrieb Hans de Goede:
>>> any objections to me merging this during one of the coming days ?
>>
>> There was a discussion with Huang Benn who is a member of Cubieboard.
>> https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/linux-sunxi/rhOUJXJu0Jg 
>>
>> 384 MHz seems to be quit conservative. Huang suggests 432 MHz.
> 
> When I originally submitted this Cubieboard2 dram clock reduction
> patch for u-boot, I had a hope that it's only going to be a temporary
> solution. And that the hardware manufacturers (CubieTech in this case)
> will step in and help us to find the best settings for their hardware
> which are also 100% reliable on non-defective units.
> 
> But appears that this is not going to fly. CubieTech is providing
> their own SD card images with their own tweaks, which differ from
>     https://github.com/linux-sunxi/sunxi-boards
> OLIMEX is also providing their own SD card images and compilation
> instructions, relying on their own extra patches and custom
> fex files. Moreover, there is also an active community providing a
> variety of their own customized images at http://www.cubieforums.com/
> (with different tweaks, and also overclocking in some cases). We
> just can't stop the creativity of all these people :-)
> 
> Anyway, what we have now is that the default Cubieboard2 dram settings
> at https://github.com/linux-sunxi/sunxi-boards do not work reliable
> out of the box for some small fraction of users. I am *not* one of
> them. My Cubietruck works fine with dram clocked at 432MHz and my
> Cubieboard2 works fine with 480MHz dram, even with a bit of
> overclocking headroom. And to move forward, we need ACKs from the
> real users of the problematic hardware. Only they can tell us, which
> dram clock speed is good for their devices. But finding a stable
> hardware configuration is easier said than done.
> 
> And the only half-decent manageable solution is IMHO the introduction
> of diagnostic tools, which could be useful for identifying defective
> or misconfigured hardware. I hope that we can start with
>     https://github.com/ssvb/lima-memtester/
> and evolve it into a more complete stress test suite for the sunxi
> hardware (add cpuburn functionality, temperature monitoring and other
> bells and whistles). Also trying to make it extremely simple and
> intuitive to use. With the goal to eventually enforce something like
> the following policy: if you have not run the diagnostic stress
> test tool, then you have no right to complain about the supposedly
> *software* problems that you think you have on your sunxi device.
> 
> As for the 480MHz dram clock on Cubieboard2, we are currently verifying
> if it is just dcdc3 voltage that makes a certain small fraction of
> Cubieboard2 devices unstable:
>     http://irclog.whitequark.org/linux-sunxi/2014-04-04#7013744;
> Cubieboard1 and Cubieboard2 are both using exactly the same PCB.
> And also Cubieboard1 is known to be 100% reliable with 480MHz dram
> clock speed (at least there were no reports about any problems).
> This means that the problem is likely in the A20 SoC or its
> misconfiguration. And dcdc3 voltage looks like a very likely culprit,
> taking into account the test results from my Cubietruck:
>     https://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/msg03510.html
> 

Thanks for your continued work on this. For now I'll hold back on
merging the clock reduction patch until we've some more info on this /
some results from your further testing.

Regards,

Hans

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