On Wed, Sep 16, 2026 at 02:36:07PM +0200, Stefano Garzarella wrote:
> On Tue, Sep 15, 2026 at 10:43:23AM -0700, Bobby Eshleman wrote:
> > On Tue, Sep 15, 2026 at 12:16:47PM +0200, Stefano Garzarella wrote:
> > > On Fri, Sep 04, 2026 at 10:30:28AM -0700, Bobby Eshleman wrote:
> > > > On Fri, Sep 04, 2026 at 10:55:17AM +0200, Stefano Garzarella wrote:
> > > > > On Wed, Sep 02, 2026 at 04:00:46PM -0700, Bobby Eshleman wrote:
> > > > > > vsock network namespaces let a host put each VM in a namespace of 
> > > > > > its
> > > > > > own. A guest has no equivalent yet. It has a single G2H device that
> > > > > > cannot be assigned to a network namespace.
> > > > >
> > > > > Thanks for this, I'll do a proper review next week, in the mean time 
> > > > > some
> > > > > comments below:
> > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > This series lets a guest move that device into a network namespace. 
> > > > > > A
> > > > > > new ioctl on /dev/vsock, IOCTL_VM_SOCKETS_ASSIGN_G2H_NETNS, assigns 
> > > > > > the
> > > > > > device to the namespace of the calling process. The namespace's 
> > > > > > existing
> > > > >
> > > > > Why an ioctl?
> > > > >
> > > > > I'm asking because I'd like to know if you've already considered any
> > > > > alternatives (sysfs, netlink, etc.)
> > > > >
> > > > > How do you think the ioctl should be used? Should we provide an 
> > > > > userspace
> > > > > tool, or extending some existing tools?
> > > > >
> > > > > Thanks,
> > > > > Stefano
> > > >
> > > > Really only because /dev/vsock exists and the prior series used it.
> > > 
> > > Yeah, I vaguely remember that we may have discussed switching to netlink 
> > > in
> > > that thread, but I can't find it.
> > > 
> > > >
> > > > Considering netlink, it might be the better option because there is a
> > > > lot of prior art solving problems we might have in the future. For
> > > > example, I was thinking about when users suddenly lose access to vsock,
> > > > with just the current assign ioctl there is no way for apps or users to
> > > > figure out why this happened. We can have an ioctl() setter for user,
> > > > but in netdev world users can actually get a notification via netlink as
> > > > to which namespace the device went to and what its ifindex is there (see
> > > > __dev_change_net_namespace() for the RTM_DELLINK and RTM_NEWLINK
> > > > messages). There is probably more, but that's the case that comes to
> > > > mind.
> > > 
> > > netlink seems like the right way to go, do you think it'll be a real pain 
> > > to
> > > implement?
> > 
> > It is really not bad... it'll include a yaml spec in
> > Documentation/netlink/specs/ of call names and perms, a new target for
> > generated code in the Makefile, a handler, and then
> > tools/net/ynl/ynl-regen.sh generates the plumbing.
> 
> Ah, nice! So, do you want to try that direction?
> 
> Thanks,
> Stefano
> 

Let's give it a go. I have a draft of it for v2 and looks reasonable to
me.

Best,
Bobby

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