On Thu, Oct 17, 2024 at 01:05:34PM -0400, Peter Xu wrote:
> On Thu, Oct 17, 2024 at 01:47:13PM -0300, Jason Gunthorpe wrote:
> > On Thu, Oct 17, 2024 at 10:58:29AM -0400, Peter Xu wrote:
> > 
> > > My question was more torwards whether gmemfd could still expose the
> > > possibility to be used in VA forms to other modules that may not support
> > > fd+offsets yet.
> > 
> > I keep hearing they don't want to support page pinning on a guestmemfd
> > mapping, so VA based paths could not work.
> 
> Do you remember the reasoning of it?  Is it because CoCo still needs to
> have a bounded time window to convert from shared back to private?  

I think so

> If so, maybe that's a non-issue for non-CoCo, where the VM object /
> gmemfd object (when created) can have a flag marking that it's
> always shared and can never be converted to private for any page
> within.

What is non-CoCo? Does it include the private/shared concept?

> So how would VFIO's DMA work even with iommufd if pages cannot be pinned?
> Is some form of bounce buffering required, then?

We can do some kind of atomic replace during a private/shared
exchange. In some HW cases the iommu table doesn't even need an
update.

It will be tricky stuff.

Jason

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