Am sure Linkers find your experiences of life in China fascinating Scott.

Please keep us informed of additional appropriate impressions when you have 
time.. 

Cheers, Scott ..

Stephen

---- On Tue, 01 Nov 2016 15:43:37 +1100 Scott Howard<[email protected]> wrote 
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 > Whilst it's certainly clear that WeChat is the dominant chat program in 
 > China (similar to Line in Japan/Singapore, and WhatsApp in much of the rest 
 > of the world), from what I've seen the non-chat features seem to be little 
 > more than marketing.
 > 
 > For example, yesterday I bought a coffee at Starbucks in Bejing.  On the 
 > receipt is a QR code, with instructions (in both Chinese and English) that 
 > if I want an invoice I should scan that QR code in WeChat  (A Chinese 
 > invoice is similar to an Australian tax invoice, except it needs to include 
 > the details of the purchaser, so they are not provided by default in most 
 > cases).
 > 
 > 
 > Sure enough, if I open WeChat and tell it to scan that barcode then I am 
 > prompted for details like my name/company name and email address in order to 
 > obtain an invoice - all from within WeChat!
 > 
 > 
 > However if I instead scan the QR code in another application, exactly the 
 > same thing happens - only this time using the devices default web browser.  
 > The WeChat app is seemingly doing nothing more than providing a barcode 
 > scanner and a web browser, but by specifying WeChat on the receipt it gives 
 > the impression that this is some specific WeChat integration.  I suspect the 
 > menu ordering mentioned below is exactly the same setup.
 > 
 > 
 > If there is an application that is revolutionary, it's the mobile payment 
 > systems like AliPay.  Open the app, and either display a barcode that the 
 > merchant then scans, or scan a barcode belonging to the merchant with your 
 > phone, and your purchase is paid for.  Within seconds the details of the 
 > transaction will be shown on your phone.
 > 
 > 
 > In one particular shop I was in a few days ago, the 4 people in line before 
 > me all paid with Alipay.
 > 
 > 
 >   Scott
 > 
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 > 
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 > 
 > 
 > On Fri, Oct 28, 2016 at 6:57 PM, Stephen Loosley <[email protected]> 
 > wrote:
 > Chinese tech companies that are changing the world
 >  
 >  October 28, 2016  
 > http://www.news.com.au/technology/innovation/chinese-tech-companies-that-are-changing-the-world/news-story/24a6929c4a8d23d7c4c52612a009ba5d
 >  
 >  
 >  IF YOU have travelled to China in the last six months, you would know 
 > something was up.
 >  
 >  But it’s something you wouldn’t believe was happening if you didn’t see it 
 > with your own eyes.
 >  
 >  Once considered a backwater of innovation, technology has become so 
 > integrated into Chinese people’s lives that some restaurants no longer offer 
 > physical menus.
 >  
 >  During a visit to the country a couple of months ago, Sydney University 
 > Business School lecturer Dr Barney Tan saw the transformation first hand.
 >  
 >  “I asked for a menu, they said ‘sorry we don’t have a menu anymore’,” he 
 > told news.com.au.
 >  
 >  Instead the group was asked to use their mobile phones to scan a QR code.
 >  
 >  Using the app WeChat, they could look at the menu, order collaboratively 
 > and once satisfied with their order, they could send it to the kitchen.
 >  
 >  “It’s a simple innovation enabling businesses to use e-services,” Dr Tan 
 > said, and it has the ability to change the western world too.
 >  
 >  WeChat is owned by Tencent ... one of the group of three mega companies 
 > referred to as BAT in China ... Baidu, Alibaba and Tencent.
 >  
 >  “They are the e-commerce giants of China,” Dr Tan said, “and they are the 
 > ones driving innovation”.
 >  
 >  Dr Tan said they do this mainly through providing platforms for business to 
 > innovate using services they provide, and have enjoyed huge success.
 >  
 >  In contrast to western countries, where different products such as 
 > Facebook, Skype, Uber, Amazon, Instagram, Yelp, Paypal, Expedia, Spotify and 
 > Tinder are separate services, in China they are rolled into one super app.
 >  
 >  Chinese people can order food, post photos, make a doctor’s appointment, 
 > access investment services, pay bills, buy cinema tickets, train tickets and 
 > interact with their friends and family using WeChat.
 >  
 >  One Bloomberg reporter said refusing to download WeChat in China was seen 
 > as “socially weird, like refusing to wear shoes”.
 >  
 >  Dr Tan said WeChat, which is owned by Tencent, started as an imitation of 
 > WhatsApp, with the added feature of voice messages, but it had grown into 
 > much more.
 >  
 >  “It’s become an integrated thing that’s just massive, most importantly it 
 > offers a digital wallet service,” Dr Tan said.
 >  
 >  “Friends tell me when they go out they don’t need to bring a wallet 
 > anymore,” he said.
 >  
 >  The app is just one way that e-commerce is transforming China, leading 
 > western countries to look to it for inspiration.
 >  
 >  “If you want to know what’s possible with e-commerce, to find the answer 
 > you have to look at China,” Dr Tan said.
 >  
 >  “At least in e-commerce they are already leading the way. Anyone who has 
 > been to China in the past couple of months, it’s apparent to see.
 >  
 >  “The extent to which e-commerce has been integrated into the lives of 
 > regular people is just amazing and you cannot imagine it happening in the 
 > west. We are so far behind, we are playing catch-up.”
 >  
 >  
 >  FROM COPYCAT TO INNOVATOR
 >  
 >  Up until recently, China has been known as a ‘copycat’ nation which has 
 > imitated the innovations of other countries.
 >  
 >  But the country is amping up its start-up culture and is looking to people 
 > like Jack Ma, the founder of Alibaba, as an example of the rewards of 
 > innovation.
 >  
 >  There are many reasons why China has emerged as a tech player but many of 
 > them come back down to what western countries would see as limitations.
 >  
 >  One reason why WeChat became so big was because text messages were 
 > expensive to send in China and many people didn’t have computers at home so 
 > most people accessed the internet via their mobiles. This provided a 
 > powerful incentive for the development of mobile technology and mobile 
 > e-banking.
 >  
 >  The lack of maps in China, where many places don’t have a street address, 
 > is another area where technology has filled a gap, with advanced 
 > point-to-point geolocation and GPS-enabled devices.
 >  
 >  Online shopping giant Alibaba benefited from the lack of retail stores in 
 > China.
 >  
 >  “There’s not much of an established physical retail infrastructure, so 
 > people are going directly to a purely online world,” Doug Gurr told McKinsey.
 >  
 >  “They don’t go to a physical store at all — they simply look online and 
 > then purchase. If you talk to a group of Chinese women between the ages of 
 > 20 and 25 and ask them where they shop, they’ll just look at you like you’re 
 > a bit stupid.”
 >  
 >  China doesn’t have as many shops as other western countries.
 >  
 >  Dr Tan said Alibaba was an innovator to watch in the future. The company 
 > traditionally connected international buyers with Chinese suppliers but was 
 > now looking to expand its services overseas, including in Australia, to 
 > allow international suppliers to access the rising middle class consumers in 
 > China.
 >  
 >  “They are trying to rival Amazon in that,” Dr Tan said. “It’s about 
 > bringing international buyers and sellers together.”
 >  
 >  Like Tencent, integration is a key factor of Alibaba’s success.
 >  
 >  For example, on Alibaba’s Taobao shopping app, which offers online shopping 
 > similar to eBay and Amazon, people can also buy groceries and other goods. 
 > But it also acts as a social media platform where buyers can share their 
 > recommendations of the products.
 >  
 >  In order to understand how integral it has become in people’s lives, Maggie 
 > Zhou, Alibaba Australia and New Zealand managing director told the recent 
 > Sydney China Business Forum, the average user of the Taobao app launched it 
 > seven times per day, and spent more than 25 minutes per day in the online 
 > shopping app.
 >  
 >  The app has become a place where social interactions happen and is now a 
 > portal for commerce and digital entertainment.
 >  
 >  Live streaming is a new innovation and a recent event where celebrity 
 > Angelababy, known as China’s Taylor Swift, live streamed the new Maybelline 
 > lip gloss was watched by five million users. “10,000 units (were) sold in 
 > only two hours,” Ms Zhou said.
 >  
 >  Alibaba is also branching into other areas, including looking at the 
 > potential for virtual reality to transform the consumer experience. The 
 > company is also looking at ways of integrating its platform with an internet 
 > car, further entrenching it into everyday life and helping to develop 
 > smarter transportation and smarter cities.
 >  
 >  “There’s a battle between Alibaba and WeChat to make the easiest, most 
 > integrated payment system in the world,” Brian Buchwald, CEO of consumer 
 > intelligence firm Bomoda told Digiday. “Alibaba’s advantage is being the 
 > world’s largest marketplace. It was around before WeChat, but it’s a 
 > desktop-first product. WeChat was built with a mobile-first mentality.”
 >  
 >  
 >  THE NEW SILICON VALLEY?
 >  
 >  While many people don’t realise it, China has already begun influencing 
 > products in the west.
 >  
 >  For example, Dr Tan said that taxi hailing apps like GoCatch and Ingogo had 
 > been developed in China first.
 >  
 >  Others have pointed to the development of dating app Momo in China, before 
 > Tinder became popular in the west. WeChat also offered in-app news articles 
 > well before Facebook and integrated the use of QR codes before Snapchat.
 >  
 >  Now Facebook is copying WeChat. WeChat started off copying WhatsApp.
 >  
 >  Like WeChat, Facebook now has a voice messaging function and is also 
 > developing a payments system.
 >  
 >  “Quite frankly, the trope that China copies the US hasn’t been true for 
 > years, and in mobile it’s the opposite: The US often copies China,” Ben 
 > Thompson, the founder of the tech research firm Stratechery told the New 
 > York Times. “For the Facebook Messenger app, for example, the best way to 
 > understand their road map is to look at WeChat.”
 >  
 >  But Dr Tan said it was unclear how much of the technology being developed 
 > in China would make its way to western countries because of concerns over 
 > privacy.
 >  
 >  “By integrating mobile payment they also have data surrounding your 
 > consumption patterns,” he said. “They know where you’ve been, which 
 > restaurants, what food or dishes you like to order,” he said.
 >  
 >  He said it was likely WeChat was selling this data to companies for 
 > analysis. They were other potential downsides of integrating so many 
 > services into one app.
 >  
 >  “I also know IT security experts (in China) who are so paranoid, they don’t 
 > keep any money in the bank anymore,” he said. “Because now if someone knows 
 > your mobile number, they can get access to your bank account because of 
 > integration.
 >  
 >  “So on one hand there’s benefit to ordinary people having things in one 
 > place but there is an issue of data security, privacy and all that.”
 >  
 >  Despite the issues, Dr Tan said some level of integration was inevitable in 
 > western countries and the development of e-commerce in western countries 
 > would be driven by China.
 >  
 >  “The extent of what they are doing is so unbelievable, you have to be there 
 > to believe it.”
 >  
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