Hello David,

Thank you very much for your clarifications. They are very helpful.
Sorry for the delay in answering your message.

David Spickett <david.spick...@linaro.org> writes:

>> There was a big impact on the flang builds on tcwg-jade-01 (which went from 
>> 1h–2h to
>> 10min–30min), but not on other builds.
>
> Given how much resource flang takes up this is a great result even if
> they're the only faster builds.

That's good to know. I've been looking at the “build times” graph for
other builds and they haven't changed much since July 6th (when I
changed the cache sizes).

>> Since different machines have different disk sizes and free space I chose 
>> different
>> ccache max sizes for them, as follows:
>
> Can you document how you set, and why you chose, the sizes? There is a
> bit about ccache at the end of
> https://linaro.atlassian.net/wiki/spaces/TCWG/pages/22343946024/LLVM+Docker+Buildbot+Maintenance
> you could put it there.

Thanks for the suggestion. I expanded that section with the information
I gathered and the changes I made. Please let me know if there's
anything I can improve on it.

Since the libc++ buildkites share the ccache configuration with the LLVM
buildbots, I briefly mentioned that (with a link to the LLVM buildbot
page) at
https://linaro.atlassian.net/wiki/spaces/TCWG/pages/22405546190/Buildkite+Bot+Maintenance

> Particularly want to know if this config must be set each time or is
> automated. I *think* the volumes are made by hand but I didn't confirm
> that. I guess the cache size is set inside each container but must
> agree between the ones that share a ccache volume?

The config is stored in ~tcwg-buildbot/.ccache/ccache.conf. Since the
shared ccache volume is mounted at ~tcwg-buildbot/.ccache, the cache
size can be set manually once (either by editing the ccache.conf file or
with “ccache --max-size SIZE”) and will be persisted and shared across
containers that share the a ccache volume.

I added this information to the wiki. Please let me know if it should be
clarified or expanded.

I also believe that the volumes are made by hand, but I didn't confirm
that either. I didn't find anything in the dockerfiles scripts to create
these volumes.

>> * The following tcwg-llvmbot_tk1-* machines are currently unreachable so I 
>> couldn't
>> examine them:
>> * The following tcwg-llvmbot_tk1-* machines are running an llvmbot container 
>> but no
>> builder container, so I didn't change their ccache configuration:
>
> For a while we only had 3/4 actually working which is why you see some
> "pretending" to be someone else. It is expected that the ones that are
> back online now aren't doing anything.

Ah, makes sense. Thanks for the information.

>> * Going through our ssh config file I didn't find these build bots that
>> are listed at http://llvm.validation.linaro.org/ so I didn't check
>> their ccache usage:
>
>>  - clang-arm64-windows-msvc-2stage
>>  - clang-arm64-windows-msvc
>>  - clang-arm64-windows-msvc-2stage
>> - clang-arm64-windows-msvc
>
> These run on the surface laptops
> (https://linaro.atlassian.net/wiki/spaces/TCWG/pages/22395192116/Accessing+Windows+on+Arm+machines).
>
> These do not use ccache at this time (no mention on
> https://linaro.atlassian.net/wiki/spaces/TCWGPUB/pages/25310167965/How+to+setup+LLVM+buildbots+for+Windows+on+Arm).

Ok.

>  > - clang-native-arm-lnt-perf
>  > - clang-armv7-vfpv3-full-2stage
>  > - clang-thumbv7-full-2stage
>
> This is another case where the "builder" name (builder meaning the
> configuration it builds) is served by a "worker" that has a different
> name. So lnt-perf runs on whatever is running the tk1-02 container
> (https://lab.llvm.org/buildbot/#/builders/113).
>
> The other 2 are on the "silent" buildmaster, for example
> https://lab.llvm.org/staging/#/builders/169.

Thanks for the clarifications.

> The current layout for the tk1s I wrote out in
> https://git.linaro.org/toolchain/jenkins-scripts.git/commit/?id=e54ac9c17326434abd2d3aa66269cafaa3a6174b.
> And yeah, it makes little sense but we can unpick it now we've got
> some more nodes online.
> (short term it is easier to move containers around on our end than
> change the llvm side config)

Ah, that is a very informative commit. Thanks for pointing it out.

>  > - libcxx aarch64
>  > - libcxx aarch64 -fno-exceptions
>
> jade-04 runs 2 AArch64 buildkite agents that can build either of these
> configs depending on who picks it up first. So that might have made it
> less obvious.
>
> Or these are references to the pre-buildkite buildbot libcxx bots but
> I'm pretty sure our monitoring is up to date and wouldn't include
> them.

Thank you again for providing this information!

-- 
Thiago
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