On Thu, Nov 27, 2014 at 3:13 PM, Terrence Enger <[email protected]> wrote: > On Thu, 2014-11-27 at 09:07 -0500, Robinson Tryon wrote: >> On Wed, Nov 26, 2014 at 11:06 AM, Michael Stahl <[email protected]> wrote: >> > and if you select to store your files in a specific, >> > non-extended version in Tools->Options you don't (or at least shouldn't) >> > get any extensions... >> >> I totally agree :-) My reasoning was that once ODF 1.3 comes out, ODF >> 1.2 Extended might still be a user-selectable option. But perhaps that >> won't be the case? > > Is there a cost to keeping 1.2 Extended? I can imagine it might be > useful for people sharing documents with users of an older, pre-1.3, > LibreOffice.
...or other tools that don't yet support ODF 1.3. I assume that AbiWord, Calligra, AOO, and MS-Office will all eventually aim to support ODF 1.3, but I can imagine that LibreOffice might be one of the first adopters. Question: After the official release of ODF 1.2, how long did it take for tools (including LibreOffice) to add support? Do we think it's likely for MS to provide an ODF 1.3 patch for older MS-Office releases? From a practical perspective, supporting ODF 1.2 Extended would require the continued maintenance of LibreOffice extensions to ODF 1.2 that have been incorporated into (or had a functional equivalent provided by) ODF 1.3. As it stands, that seems like a very minor amount of work. Here's why: We've got only two listed extensions that have notes about being incorporated into ODF: 1) https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Development/ODF_Implementer_Notes#Store_more_excel_user_form_attributes Support for this apparently already exists in ODF 1.1, and it looks like we're implementing it for LO 4.4. It should be ODF 1.1 valid, and thus backwards-compatible, so no need for ODF 1.2 Extended. 2) https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Development/ODF_Implementer_Notes#Support_notes_for_Impress Based on my reading of the ticket, it looks like this extension is going to make it into ODF 1.3. Of the 20 other (documented) LO extensions to ODF, 5 don't appear to have an upstream OASIS ticket. (Question: Is there a reason not to push all of our extensions upstream?) Of the remaining 15, Fix Version: ODF 1.3 - Unresolved ---> 11 Fix Version: none - Unresolved -> 2 Fix Version: ODF 1.2 - Fixed w/patch These last two share the same OASIS ticket. Can we mark these as standardized in ODF? Do current builds of ODF implement the updated spec? (i.e. are they no longer dependent on the extension?) https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Development/ODF_Implementer_Notes#Support_surface_chart_extension_on_import https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Development/ODF_Implementer_Notes#New_chart_types_filled_net_and_filled_radar So to sum up from above, the cost of supporting ODF 1.2 Extended is (at present) just the cost of supporting a single ODF extension. Cheers, --R -- Robinson Tryon QA Engineer - The Document Foundation LibreOffice Community Outreach Herald [email protected] _______________________________________________ LibreOffice mailing list [email protected] http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice
