Hi,

in discussions I sometimes read statements like „...formal vote next call”. I think here some clarification is required.

The QA call has no command of the QA community. The calls and their participants are not a formal entity of TDF. The only legitimation of the results of these calls can be that decisions are wise, well and comprehensible founded, what would be an appropriate base that community might follow. Only a logic decision, promising success and plausible for the other members of the community grant acceptance. The sight of an accidental majority of accidental present laymen is irrelevant. TDF is a meritocratic institution, not a democratic one, and that's the same with the QA community.

So, of course, the calls may coordinate the work of the participants as they want. And some of the results are really great, for example the rework and additionally new creation of the QA Wiki and web pages. But if the talk is about things affecting other people's work or even do something what might be called decisions, the results should be presented to the community in clear, brief, transparent way like: „Our conclusion was that we should do abc because of def, we also thought about ghi and jkl, but we dismissed those alternative because of mno and pqr. If we don't hear concerns, xyz will proceed”.

So please think about the presentation of the results of the calls. To be honest - my regard concerning the QA calls is not good. All the "decisions" are reasoned with "we agreed". That's not sufficient, the call has to reason why the rest of the community should accept and follow those ideas. Currently for many issues (not only related to QA calls) I only see actionism what often shows a lack of understanding of the complex matters. Because I do not want to compromise someone here in the project I choose an example from somewhere else, "advice" I got the last weeks often was very similar to this joke: <https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=122133#c3>.

The working sphere in the LibO project caused considerable discomfort for me, and because I doubt that this incompatibility can be solved, I decided to leave the LibO project. In future I will contribute to Open Source PLC Programming Libraries.

Bye


Rainer
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