https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=169426
--- Comment #7 from Philippe Cloutier <[email protected]> --- (In reply to Olivier Hallot from comment #3) > (In reply to Philippe Cloutier from comment #0) > > According to the Shortcut Keys for LibreOffice Writer page > > (https://help.libreoffice.org/latest/en-US/text/swriter/04/01020000.html), > > The updated help page is > https://help.libreoffice.org/master/en-US/text/swriter/04/01020000.html Ah, yes, thank you Olivier > > one of the effects of keyboard shortcut Alt+Enter is: > > <emph>Paragraph in list</emph>. Inserts a new paragraph within a list > > without a bullet or number, while preserving the list’s paragraph > > formatting. To resume numbering or bulleting, press <keycode>Enter</keycode> > > after adding content to the new paragraph. This shortcut does not work if > > the cursor is in the very beginning of a list paragraph. > > > > In fact, this inserts a paragraph (line) break, not (really) a new > > paragraph. If a paragraph consists of: > > > Two words > > …and the cursor is between "Two" and "words", the shortcut will not really > > insert a new paragraph, but rather split the existing paragraph in 2. > > No. > It results in 2 paragraphs. Yes. Splitting 1 paragraph results in 2 paragraphs. I apologize for writing “a paragraph (line) break”, I should have written just “paragraph break”. > > As for the form, an incomplete sentence like “Paragraph in list.” could be > > confusing and should be avoided. Colons are best to isolate context, as > > Ctrl+Backspace exemplifies. > > > > Moreover, the sentence "To resume numbering or bulleting, press > > <keycode>Enter</keycode> after adding content to the new paragraph." (which > > was added in > > https://git.libreoffice.org/help/+/ > > 9ea21fcc6dca1c2f313b0b7494c00cdd4a42c774%5E%21 ) is superfluous and even > > misleading, suggesting that pressing Alt+Enter would somehow switch Writer > > to an alternative mode, which is not the case. > > Superflous and misleading? With no contents in the line, Enter will close > the list. With contents, it resumes the numbering/bulleting. That is a > tremendous feature! I was referring to the sentence, not to the feature it documents. > > Fourthly, many lists use list markers which are neither bullets nor numbers, > > so the description is imprecise. > > What other markers are you talking about? Markers are either numbers or > bullets. They are configured in the list style linked to the paragraph in > list. There are countless list markers possible, as Figure 2 of the guide you refer to shows. Writer even lets users use custom ones. > > Fifthly, "while preserving the list’s paragraph formatting" seems > > superfluous to me (we do not specify such a thing for Shift+Enter, which > > does the same TTBOMK). > > Please get used to LibreOffice Writer lists. A list is a set of paragraphs. > A list has a list style. All paragraphs in a list share list properties. > Paragraph properties can eventually be formatted individually but the list > properties are the same, unless overridden manually. > > […] > > > > > Finally, regarding implementation, the last sentence seems to document a bug > > which will hopefully be fixed at some point, so it would be best to keep it > > as a translatable entity distinct from the rest. I know nothing about > > LibreOffice l10n, but that does not seem to be the case if I read correctly. > > > > By the way, ticket #168483 comment #5 contains advice about the placement of > > this description (in its last paragraph). > > > > I would therefore suggest: > > Inside a list: Split the paragraph in 2, without adding a list element (the > > second paragraph will contain the part of the split paragraph which follows > > the cursor). Does not work when the cursor is at the start of a paragraph. > > Sorry. wrong, Alt Enter adds a list element, but with no number or bullet. > > Here is an authoritative text on LibreOffice Writer lists: > > https://books.libreoffice.org/en/WG252/WG2512-Lists.html I admit that I am not a Writer expert, but are you confident about that? I gave that guide a decent look, and did not see anything which supports that. I do not know ODT, but I tried exporting XHTML, and that seemed to validate my understanding (although the result was a little buggy, so it might not be reliable). > […] -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug.
