On Saturday, August 9, 2003, at 02:53 am, Ross Moore wrote:

On Sat, 9 Aug 2003, James Howison wrote:


Hi all,

I'd really like to convert the latex quotation marks, `` and '' to the
recommended HTML curly quotes, &#8220 instead of `` and &#8221 instead
of '' - standard codes that render the curly quotes beautifully.

set $USE_CURLY_QUOTES =1; in an initialisation file.

That's great Ross - it works fine. I'm a little concerned that I found this so hard to find in the documentation or indeed online. In fact this phrase is kindof a googlewhack - a word that only is indexed in google once (and unfortunately I didn't find it because the email writer had miss-spelled quotation!).


That won't be true after these emails are indexed though ;) Is there perhaps a more complete list of environment variables in the works?

http://www.google.com/search?q=$USE_CURLY_QUOTES&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8

Anyvay - I'm glad that this works - thanks a million.

This is not the default, because not all browsers actually render
these characters. (At least, that was the situation 3-4 years ago when
the LaTex2HTML coding was written.)

As you point out that was indeed true - but the times are a-changing ;) It would be great to make stuff like this more visible - obviously without forcing it on anyone. This guy seems to have done good research into the best way to handle this:


http://www.dwheeler.com/essays/quotes-in-html.html

Cheers
James




Hope this helps,


Ross Moore



I'm sure that this is possible through latex2html - the codes are listed around unicode.pl:722 - but either I can't find the magic incantation to have latex2html do the conversion or there is a bug preventing this from working in my version (1.70) or set-up.

I've tried:

latex2html -html_version 4.0,unicode test.tex

What is strange is that this does work for, say \v{Z} which converts to
the code Ž (and that is definitely happening through unicode.pl (I
changed the translation and it worked fine).


So why doesn't the translation for `` (which is correctly listed in the
unicode.pl as \`\`) and '' which is correctly listed as \'\' work?


I've had a good hunt around for this - but I can't see why the other
codes are converted but not the quotes.

Cheers,
James

ps. minimal test.tex follows

----------

\documentclass[11pt]{article}
\begin{document}
``Why are these quotes not converted to unicode''  (they are in the
unicode.pl file)
While this symbol (also in the unicode.pl file) is? - \v{Z}
\end{document}

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