Sorry. I said that the mantillas from Granada and Barcelona were machine
made. IT IS NOT TRUE. They are manual.
Maria Greil

El sáb., 18 jul. 2020 a las 19:16, N.A. Neff (<nancy.a.n...@gmail.com>)
escribió:

> I agree with Maria. As I said initially, this is machine-made needlerun on
> machine-made net. This indeed a form of embroidery on net, which is not
> usually included in what people mean by "needle-lace". I didn't want to get
> into an argument about how narrowly or how broadly one defined
> "needle-lace", since embroidered forms of lace are indeed made by a needle.
>
> I'll attach my initial analysis since I never saw that appear on Arachne
> and maybe was lost in cyberspace.
>
> Nancy
> Connecticut, USA
>
> On Sat, Jul 18, 2020, 09:42 Maria Greil <mariagr...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Sorry, but I do not agree with you. I find it is no needle lace but
> machine
> > embroidery on a mechanical tulle.
> > Maria
> >
> >
> > Hi Sue,
> >
> How pretty! And what a good photo -- the details are quite clear when
> > enlarged.
> >
> > It is needle-run lace, embroidery on net. The net is machine-made, and
> the
> > embroidery is also almost certainly done by machine although I wouldn't
> > claim to be 100% sure unless I could see the back. It is a very nice one,
> > which would lead me to date it to the late 1800s.
> >
> > As I say, it is a particularly nice example of this kind of lace -- a
> > beautiful design and well executed.
> >
> > Best wishes,
> >
> > Nancy
> >
> > Connecticut, USA
> >
> >
>
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