On 2022.08.05 14:05, Jack via KMyMoney-devel wrote:
On 2022.08.03 10:19, Jack via KMyMoney-devel wrote:
On 8/3/22 02:03, Thomas Baumgart via KMyMoney-devel wrote:
On Mittwoch, 3. August 2022 01:40:50 CEST Jack via KMyMoney-devel
wrote:
I just looked at on of my investment account to reconcile the new
statement, and the brokerage account has a large negative balance.
Without doing a full audit, it appears that two stock sell
transactions (for the same security) last month are showing up in
the brokerage account as Payments instead of Deposits. I'm know I
did a proper reconciliation last month, but now those numbers
don't match. I have not yet gone through all my saved copies to
see when it changed, but that's next on my list.
Just in case anyone has any ideas, one of the transactions is
below. I've trimmed the memo of lots of excess details Merrill
Lynch includes, and I trimmed the bankid.
<TRANSACTION commodity="USD" entrydate="2022-07-02"
id="T000000000000025879" memo="Sale: PUTNAM ULTRA SHORT DURATION
INCOME
FD..." postdate="2022-06-15">
<SPLITS>
<SPLIT account="A000345" action="" bankid="" id="S0001"
memo="Sale: PUTNAM ULTRA SHORT DURATION INCOME FD..." number=""
payee="" price="1/1" reconciledate="2022-06-30" reconcileflag="2"
shares="-55723/50" value="-55723/50"/>
<SPLIT account="A000941" action="Buy" bankid="ID 20220614..."
id="S0002" memo="Sale: PUTNAM ULTRA SHORT DURATION INCOME FD..."
number="" payee="" price="-10/1" reconciledate="2022-06-30"
reconcileflag="2" shares="-55723/500" value="55723/50"/>
</SPLITS>
</TRANSACTION>
Account 345 is the brokerage account and 941 is the stock account
within the investment account.
Looks like
shares="-55723/500" value="55723/50"
is probably the source of the problem. That is simply wrong and may
be caused by some bug. Somewhere, the split of the brokerage
account (S0001) is created based on the value part of the security
split (S0002) by simply inverting the value. Since value in S0001
has the wrong sign you see those results. It could well be that
this is still a problem within the investment transaction editor
(which is the new kid on the block here).
One thing which caught my eye is that the split for the security
has 'action="Buy"' which worried me more before I noticed that it
has that value for lots of transactions other then stock sales.
Might that be an issue, or is it likely a red herring?
Within the XML file, the action string is always presented as "buy"
and the sign of the split controls if it is actually a buy or a
sell operation. The conversions happen in
MyMoneySplit::investmentTransactionType and
MyMoneySplit::setAction. So that is not a problem.
I'll post more when I have a tighter window on when the problem
started.
Did you enter the transactions manually or did you import them and
edited them afterwards?
First, on history, I have a backup on 7/2 prior to the creation of
that transaction. My next backup was 7/27, which shows the
problem. I had hoped to have a backup after the import and before
the reconciliation. I was going to say I'm sure the problem was
introduced after 7/2, but the actual earliest possible date would be
closer to the beginning of June, when I did my prior large import
from Merrill Lynch.
I'm pretty sure that was an imported transaction, and I do not
remember having to edit it, as I do with many other Merrill Lynch
transactions. However, I am quite sure I was using git master when
I did that import.
Also note that the sign is reversed for only two transactions, both
selling the same security, several days apart. There are plenty of
other sell transactions in that same account which are correct.
Would it help for me to test importing that account again for June?
I suppose I can download those transactions as OFX, if file import
would give the same values as direct connect. That way, I can test
several times, without repeatedly going back to the server.
Curiouser and curiouser. I downloaded an OFX file for all investment
transaction for that account for that month. Importing it into my
current file said 22 matches and 2 added transaction. Rhe ledger for
the brokerage account shows that the new transactions identical to
the two above problem transactions but shown (correctly) as deposits
instead of payments. However, those transactions are nowhere to be
seen in the Investment account. If I use the context menu to go the
the investment account from one of the new transactions, it takes me
to the old transaction.
Additional issue - the new transactions are not for the same
security. KMM creates new security accounts using something it
extracts from the downloaded transaction, and for Merrill Lynch, in
includes lots of extraneous stuff, such as date and/or price. When I
edit the transaction and change the security to the account name I
use, the transaction now shows up properly in the Investment
account. However, when I use the context menu to switch between the
Investment and Brokerage accounts, all is correct going from
Investment to Brokerage, but going the other way, both the old and
new transaction take me to the old one.
Then, deleting both old (wrong) transactions, and marking the new
ones as reconciled, everything is back to normal - so I can continue
with my daily use of the files. I also now have enough backups that
I can at least partly recreate some of these problems. However,
given that the current git master imports correctly, I suppose I have
to assume it was a transient issue, so there's no real point in
trying to track down the exact cause. However, I'll be glad to do
further testing if anyone thinks it would be useful.
Separate note: At some point during this process, I actually found a
few transactions which were marked "R" for reconciled, but were also
still marked as Imported. These were all rather old transactions,
and I can only assume that marking them Cleared at the time did not
also clear the Imported marking. This is with git master (KMyMoney
Version 5.1.80-932e4a272) so I don't know how it relates to bug
457484 (https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=457484) which is with
5.1.2.
Now I'm more confused than ever. When I sent my previous message (5
Aug) the account in KMM was all correct, and matched the online bank
records. I just looked at that account now, and the same two
transactions (from Jue 8 and 15) have reversed again, leaving me with a
negative cash balance. There are no new transactions in that account
since prior to the reconciliation for 29 July. I've been running git
master, compiled at least every three or four days. I know I can just
create new transactions and delete the old ones, but I'm having trouble
even comprehending how this could have happened without any editing of
those transactions.
Jack
