On 2014.07.18 09:35, Ian Neal wrote:
Hi,

I am setting up an investment account in KMyMoney and I have been trying to work out the best way of doing it. Potentially there are a couple of bugs or maybe it is the way I am trying to set it up.

I have to pay a quarterly fee which becomes a "Commission Credit" so, for each trade I make, a commission deduction should be made until there is no credit left at which point it should be deducted as a fee from the trade.

If I try to set it up the fee as a split transaction, going to an expense category and a full/partial reversal in the commission account, it does not work properly. To me there are two bugs: 1/ If the total for fees is zero, the enter icon is disabled - either should not be disabled at all for zero fees or should only be disabled if zero and not a split transaction.
2/ If the total for fees is NOT zero, the enter icon is enabled but:

   When you enter the transaction for that entry in the investment
   account, it incorrectly shows the account as being the commission
   one rather than the brokerage one along with the value of the
   reversal instead of the value of the trade. The commission account
   and the brokerage account do show the correct payments.

The second bug also causes an issue when you want to go in to edit the transaction as you have fix the account and then re-create the split transaction for the fee.

Hopefully that makes sense, I am happy to clarify if required.

Regards,

Ian
Ian,

I don't quite follow, but see if my approach makes any sense, and would help. I would enter the quarterly fee as a payment (actually transfer) from some other account (checking, ...) to the brokerage account. If it's a transfer, no category is needed. Then, any commissions on actual investment transactions are handled by the fee line in the standard buy/sell/... transaction. No extra splits necessary. If you use up the full commission credit within a quarter, further commissions just continue to be paid from the brokerage account. My only question is what is supposed to happen if you don't use up the credit within a quarter. If it just sits in the brokerage account, great. On the other hand, if they remainder just gets deducted, I don't see an easy way. You would have to track commissions during the quarter and manually either create a payment of the remaining amount from the brokerage account, or create some investment transaction with no actual investment activity, but the remaining credit as the fee.

Separately, when you say that (first bug) if fee total is zero the enter is disabled, that makes sense, Why would you select a category for a fee if there isn't any? Just remove the category so the fee line is simply not used in that transaction. However, as I said above, I would always enter the commission/fee, because it is not the case that there is no commission when it comes from the credit.

If this doesn't help, then try being a bit more explicit with which transaction you are creating within which account, especially when you are talking about splits. I think everything you are trying to do can be done on an existing line in an investment transaction without needing to create a split on any of those lines.

Jack

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