Thanks for the explanation. I noticed these problems on moving from gtk2 to gtk3 builds. Is this where these changes were made?

Are there likely to be any user selectable runtime options added to Kicad to ameliorate these problems?

Tom Crane.

On Thu, 5 Nov 2020, Mark Roszko wrote:

Your issues in (1) are by design.

Whether that design is correct or not is another story.

I actually removed that behavior on Windows because Microsoft has a stable api 
to determine top level window for focus.
Linux does not and GDK used to be but with the fragmented x11/wayland mess, 
they removed the api call support to determine top level window.

And removing the focus calls instead are going to lead a rabbit hole of things 
not working like hotkeys.

On Thu, Nov 5, 2020 at 9:14 PM Tom Crane <[email protected]> wrote:
      On Thu, 5 Nov 2020, Nick Østergaard wrote:

      Thanks again for the quick follow-up.

      > Did you install wxpython (phoenix) with pip?
      No.

      > you have some python stuff in ~/.local.

      I have uploaded the modified SlackBuild scripts I used to build both the
      Slackware wxGTK3 package (wxWidgets/Phoenix) and the wxPython4 package at
      https://www.mklab.rhul.ac.uk/~tom/kicad/SlackBuild/ in case the problem
      lies with either.

      >
      > Maybe just try to clear that out completely, or explicitly set 
PYTHONPATH to the site-packages path of your install location?

      Just tried removing ~/.local and then,

      export PYTHONPATH=/usr/lib64/python3.8/site-packages/

      In both cases the scripting console error remains the same.

      Thanks
      Tom.


      >
      > On Thu, 5 Nov 2020 at 20:51, Tom Crane <[email protected]> 
wrote:
      >       Thanks for the quick response.  In the past I have been bitten by 
old
      >       libraries in non-standard places derailing other application 
builds but
      >       can't see anything obviously amiss here.
      >
      >       My $LD_LIBRARY_PATH EV is empty.  I checked where ldconfig looks 
and could
      >       not see anything incriminating outside the standard install 
locations for
      >       Slackware distros (/usr/lib64 & /lib64).  See
      >       https://www.mklab.rhul.ac.uk/~tom/kicad/ldconfig-p.txt for the 
O/P of
      >       'ldconfig -p'.
      >
      >       I also tried stracing open* calls in pcbnew.  See
      >       https://www.mklab.rhul.ac.uk/~tom/kicad/strace-pcbnew2.lis.  
Again nothing
      >       jumped out as problematic.  All calls to Python related files 
seem to
      >       reference python v.3.8 ones as expected.
      >
      >       The build scripts I am using are release version 'SlackBuild' 
scripts I've
      >       hacked to use the git development code.  See
      >       https://www.mklab.rhul.ac.uk/~tom/kicad/SlackBuild/.  The 
tom_build.sh
      >       script calls the main build script kicad-git.SlackBuild.
      >
      >       Thanks
      >       Tom
      >
      >       On Thu, 5 Nov 2020, Nick Østergaard wrote:
      >
      >       > Are you using a build script? If so please link it.
      >       > Also check if you partially installed in multiple locations, 
sucha as where ldconfig looks and echo LD_LIBRARY_PATH from your runtime env.
      >       >
      >       > Nicl
      >       >
      >       > tor. 5. nov. 2020 16.26 skrev Tom Crane 
<[email protected]>:
      >       >       I have been using recent builds for the past few weeks.  
They are usable
      >       >       but I have a couple of outstanding problems which I'm not 
sure how to
      >       >       diagnose/fix.
      >       >
      >       >       (1) I have strange behaviours with open Kicad application 
windows. For
      >       >       example I have a Kicad project, eeschema and pcbnew 
windows open on a
      >       >       single display. If I let the mouse pointer move from the 
project window to
      >       >       the eeschema or pcbnew window then input focus 
immediately transfers to
      >       >       the eeschema or pcbnew window.  This is without touching 
any mouse
      >       >       buttons.
      >       >
      >       >       Similarly moving the mouse pointer back to the project 
window has no
      >       >       effect (as it should) but moving it between the eeschema 
and pcbnew
      >       >       windows transfers input focus as soon as it enters the 
other window.
      >       >
      >       >       There is a similar effect when moving between unrelated 
(eg. an xterm)
      >       >       windows and either eeschema or pcbnew.  Here the eeschema 
or pcbnew window
      >       >       does not receive input focus (which remains with the 
xterm as it should)
      >       >       but the eeschema or pcbnew window does move up the window 
'stack'.  eg. if
      >       >       I have an eeschema windows partially covered by a pcbnew 
window, partially
      >       >       covered by an xterm window which has input focus, then 
moving the mouse
      >       >       pointer from the xterm to an uncovered section of the 
eeschema window will
      >       >       cause it to move up the stack and fully cover the pcbnew 
window.
      >       >
      >       >       I get this behaviour with both accelerated and standard 
graphics set.
      >       >
      >       >       The above behaviours were observed with the KDE desktop.  
I get similar
      >       >       behaviour with my usual window manager (fvwm95) except 
that the window
      >       >       focus never switches.
      >       >
      >       >       I also find that when invoking the DRC check that the DRC 
Control Window
      >       >       disappears immediately after popping-up and has to be 
're-acquired' by
      >       >       clicking the pcbnew tab on the fvwm95 taskbar.  I suspect 
this is another
      >       >       facet of these window problems.
      >       >
      >       >       I don't get this behaviour with any other applications 
but Kicad is the
      >       >       only wxWidgets/wxPython based one I currently use and so 
the problem could
      >       >       there at the library level rather than within Kicad on my
      >       >       distro/Kicad+dependencies build.
      >       >
      >       >       None of this is a show-stopper but it is irritating.
      >       >
      >       >       Any ideas?
      >       >
      >       >
      >       >       (2) I am unable to use any Kicad scripts.  Clicking on 
pcbnew --> Tools
      >       >       --> scripting console I get the "Error: unable to create 
Python Console"
      >       >       pop-up and the following on the console,
      >       >
      >       >         Traceback (most recent call last):
      >       >          File "<string>", line 1, in <module>
      >       >          File 
"/usr/share/kicad/scripting/kicad_pyshell/__init__.py", line 17, in
      >       >       <module>
      >       >            import wx
      >       >          File 
"/usr/lib64/python3.8/site-packages/wx/__init__.py", line 12, in
      >       >       <module>
      >       >            __version__ = wx.__version__.VERSION_STRING
      >       >       AttributeError: partially initialized module 'wx' has no 
attribute
      >       >       '__version__' (most likely due to a circular import)
      >       >
      >       >
      >       >       I built kicad with Python3 support (see below) so it 
should be using that
      >       >       and not Python2 (for which I don't have a wxWidgets 
build) but I suspect
      >       >       it might still be calling Python2.
      >       >
      >       >       Any ideas?
      >       >
      >       >       Many thanks
      >       >       Tom Crane
      >       >
      >       >       Build details:
      >       >
      >       >       Application: KiCad
      >       >       Version: (5.99.0-6755-g3b10d1583), release build
      >       >       Libraries:
      >       >            wxWidgets 3.1.4
      >       >            libcurl/7.70.0 OpenSSL/1.1.1h zlib/1.2.11 
brotli/1.0.9 libidn2/2.3.0
      >       >       libpsl/0.21.1 (+libidn2/2.3.0) libssh2/1.9.0 
nghttp2/1.41.0
      >       >       Platform: Linux 5.4.6-mklab x86_64, 64 bit, Little 
endian, wxGTK, ,
      >       >       Build Info:
      >       >            Date: Nov 2 2020 16:07:07
      >       >            wxWidgets: 3.1.4 (wchar_t,wx containers) GTK+ 3.24
      >       >            Boost: 1.74.0
      >       >            OCE: 6.9.1
      >       >            Curl: 7.72.0
      >       >            ngspice: 30
      >       >            Compiler: GCC 9.3.0 with C++ ABI 1013
      >       >       Build settings:
      >       >            KICAD_SCRIPTING=ON
      >       >            KICAD_SCRIPTING_MODULES=ON
      >       >            KICAD_SCRIPTING_PYTHON3=ON
      >       >            KICAD_SCRIPTING_WXPYTHON=ON
      >       >            KICAD_SCRIPTING_WXPYTHON_PHOENIX=ON
      >       >            KICAD_SCRIPTING_ACTION_MENU=ON
      >       >            KICAD_USE_OCE=ON
      >       >            KICAD_SPICE=ON
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