On Thursday 23 February 2012 19:04:59 Stephen Kelly wrote: > Kevin Ottens wrote: > > The lack of build system grand masters was telling though. I think we > > should really aim at having either Alex or Steve available the next time. > > I think some more notice would help there. I wasn't available on Saturday. I > was surprised to see the day annoounced on a blog, but not on this list.
Yes. Well I expected the blog to touch widely and assumed people here also read blogs... probably wrong assumption though. :-) > > In grand total we had five persons asking for help. I admit being > > surprised about the seniority of those people, most of them were not long > > timers. That said they were all motivated so that's cool. :-) > > You expected more KDE veterans in general? Yes. I kind of expected to see people working on kdelibs a while ago but now less active to like the idea and come. So found it surprising to have mostly newcomers, but as I said that's cool, I'm all for new blood anyway. :-) > > So I'd say for later editions: except if that's already someone for which > > we're sure the skill set is correct for a split propose a cleanup task > > instead. After a couple of cleanups maybe they can pick up a splitting > > task but that's probably too much to chew on a first try if you have no > > experience whatsoever dealing with kdelibs. It's a bit filtering on > > reputation which I don't like, but I'd rather do that than turning people > > away in disgust. Any opinion there? > > Yes, makes sense. If you can get a list cleanup tasks of the right > difficulty. Well, the ones we have so far seem ok: http://community.kde.org/Frameworks/Epics/kdelibs_cleanups Also we try to label them with a difficulty leve. > > So we should definitely keep doing those, the real question is when? > > Should it be weekly? bi-monthly? monthly? > > > > It seems to be "the more the better" but I doubt we can get enough people > > to be available every week. I definitely can't be there for all of them, > > that said not everyone needs to be there, two or three people to be > > mentors are enough, so we can probably have some rotations. Opinions? I'd > > definitely welcome any creative solution allowing to have these events > > very regularly. > > How did the first one work? Was it in #kde-devel? Yes, we just showed up there. On saturday the channel was mostly our anyway, I don't think I've seen any talk about non-frameworky topics that day. > If you have a list of people a newbie can ping for help and a list of tasks > those people can understand and guide a newbie on, you could say that it's > every weekend. Most people in #kde-devel would be able to help a newbie > with, eg, 'should I replace this Q_WS_WIN with Q_OS_WIN?'. That's a possibility. But having such a list doesn't ensure that at least one person of that list is available every week-end. Also we should probably detail the tasks a bit more I guess, I'm not sure I'd be able to easily answer the example question you proposed. :-) Regards. -- Kévin Ottens, http://ervin.ipsquad.net KDAB - proud patron of KDE, http://www.kdab.com
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