On Wed, 2021-05-19 at 15:29 +0300, Konstantin Kharlamov wrote: > On Wed, 2021-05-19 at 13:30 +0200, Harald Sitter wrote: > > On Mon, May 17, 2021 at 12:38 PM Nomen Luni <nomen.l...@gmx.us> wrote: > > > > > > Hi, > > > > > > I actually looked at KRename some time back and it wasn't quite what I > > > wanted. It does actually appear as a service menu option when installed, > > > so it has that base covered, however for my needs it's felt a little > > > unwieldy. My application, whilst no doubt a little less capable feels > > > smaller and more streamlined to operate and dare I say more at a level > > > consistent with the Dolphin ethos in terms of the simplicity of the GUI > > > - I realise this is subjective. If anyone has used the Thunar 'bulk > > > rename' plugin, mine is heavily influenced by the interface of that (but > > > implemented in Qt which was one of the prime reasons for its > > > creation)... so it wasn't a case of 'new code is more fun,' so much as > > > 'this is exactly what I want.' > > > > > > Since KRename already operates as a Dolphin plugin it shouldn't be too > > > much work to integrate it directly into Dolphin, or perhaps even just > > > ship it as a default plugin, however that isn't something I'm interested > > > in working on as I don't use it... benevolent self interest and all that. > > > > > > Dolphin could really benefit from a batch rename function in my opinion, > > > what form that functionality should take, pre-existing or new, is a > > > worthwhile conversation. In any case, Harald's point regarding > > > discoverability is a valid one, as I'm sure a large proportion of users > > > never take the time to investigate the service menu plugins. > > > > My point was more that all the "backendy" bits already exist in > > krename, the discoverability it lends is just bonus. And while I > > completely agree that the current UI is very... eh, advanced... you > > could simply stick another simplistic UI on top, or rework the default > > appearance of krename so it is simpler by default and powerful when > > needed. The way I see it krename could definitely become more > > appealing to potential users by being simpler, and at the same time if > > you invest UI engineering into krename you don't have to worry about > > any of the logic behind renaming in of itself since that already > > exists and is QA'd. > > > > HS > > My point on discoverability was that a person more likely to question "Hmm, > what plugins do I have in Dolphin" and find out this plugin, rather than "Hmm, > what can I use to rename a bunch of files", in which case they need to use > search engine, and after they did it, they'll most likely get a bunch of bash > solutions. KRename won't be one of them unless they specifically search for > "KDE file rename tools". > > So in that sense, discoverability of a plugin is higher than that of a stand- > alone app.
To clarify: this of course implies the plugin would be included by default with Dolphin. Otherwise indeed, there's no difference in discoverability compared to KRename
