+1 here. I am still not convinced a pure OSX environment is going to work. Regardless, it is going to be quite awhile that it is going to be ready to provide binaries. Macports and all other ports are going to be needed to fill that void until then. Please everyone work together to keep these going. Cheers, Scarlett
On Fri, Dec 11, 2015 at 3:43 PM, Marko Käning <mk-li...@mailbox.org> wrote: > Dear Boudhayan, Luca and all, > > On 02 Dec 2015, at 07:21 , Ian Wadham <iandw...@gmail.com> wrote: > > On 01/12/2015, at 8:00 PM, Luca Beltrame wrote: > >> Personally I think that CI and code review has actually improved KDE > >> software quite a bit, > > > > I believe you. Actually Marko Käning (another Macports-based developer) > > and Ben Cooksley (sysadmin) set up the first OS X CI for KDE 4 and KF5, > > with some help from a MacPorts Core Developer. Scarlett Clark now > > provides those CI's I believe. > > I’ve spent a year working on OSX/CI for KF5 and I believe that it helped > locating > and fixing quite a few bugs which weren’t existing only on the OSX > platform... > > This work helped to revive communication between KDE and OSX/MacPorts > (developers > and port maintainers). > > Currently the OSXBUILDERs are taken offline due to Scarlett working on a > major > overhaul of the CI code being run on Jenkins. > > > It would be a shame if MacPorts (but specifically René) is being shunned > for being > a controversial, but very active and productive developer! > > > We already stated a few times that MacPorts doesn’t follow the app bundle > approach > KDE is targeting at with its applications, as it is more focused on OSX > power-users > who want to have a more modular and Linuxy environment on their Apple > machines. > > @Boudhayan: > Calling MacPorts/Fink “invasive" isn’t going to motivate us to work > with you. > > You are right, KDE is a community, so why not behave like one?! From both > sides! > > > MacPorts/Fink’s port system should rather remind you of a typical Linux > system and > thus allow oftentimes a much simpler solution to bring KDE applications to > life on > OSX. Why don’t you want to see the plusses and seemingly solely focus - > from your > point of view - on all the negative aspects of such a setup?!? > > If you or others aren’t interested in supporting René’s endeavour, don’t > be surprised > if you’ll *** loose MacPorts’ KDE user-base *** very soon altogether, as > he is one of > a few who still keeps it ticking. If that were to happen, I’d find that > rather sad, > because it would render the year I spent on OSX/CI for KF5 completely in > vain and > would sentence KF5 applications on OSX/MacPorts to death, including > KMyMoney, which I > dedicated my work to mostly within the past years. > > I hope there are chances of reconsideration for the sake of the KDE > community! > > I like Ian’s idea of a “Working Party” very much… > Would be good to see that appear at last. > :) > > Best regards, > Marko > >
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