https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=436318

--- Comment #135 from imagina...@mailbox.org ---
(In reply to Patrick O'Callaghan from comment #132)
> (In reply to Armin from comment #131)
> > (In reply to imaginator from comment #115)
> > > So why don't you just dump Plasma-Wayland and use Plasma-X11 until this
> > > essential (but nowadays rather trivial) feature is _fully_ implemented?
> > 
> > Well, with modern laptops featuring extremely high resolution displays, and
> > a multiscreen setup, X11 simply cannot handle such setups any more.
> > 
> > With Wayland, a bunch of X11-features that have been "sort of working" like
> > X-forwarding, screen sharing (in Teams/Zoom), and session management stopped
> > working, but a whole lot of pain points that I had to work through over the
> > past two decades went away, such as the resolution issue mentioned above.
> > Ever since I adopted Wayland, screen sharing has been fixed and X-forwarding
> > can be replaced by alternatives like VNC, which leaves session management as
> > the last big ticket item.
> > 
> > Regarding the fake session report, Fedora 40 has backported the patches to
> > Plasma 6.0 a few months ago, so there was not really any change with the
> > update to Plasma 6.1. I otherwise came to realise that the fake session
> > restore is working exactly as advertised (cf.
> > https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=436318#c84 or the commit message at
> > https://invent.kde.org/plasma/plasma-workspace/-/commit/
> > 660988b0e30ee8ccac98c0cf164b142d70709675).
> > 
> > So, got to wait until somebody with the necessary knowledge and skills
> > implements true session management in KDE Plasma.
> 
> I generally agree, though I had hoped that the 6.1 version would be a little
> better and it really isn´t. What worries me is that apparently proper
> session restore is a missing feature in Wayland itself (Gnome has a
> non-standard workaround) so I don't know how long we are going to have to
> wait. This is not a good situation.

In this respect perhaps "Failand" might be a more suitable name.  Anyway - in
comment 25 I already pointed to the possibility of Wayland being the
root-problem.  And I guess that KDE has been aware of it since long (comment
62).  But instead of using their clout as a leading Linux-DE and publicly
pointing out and criticizing a glaring Wayland-deficiency they even chose
Wayland as default for Plasma 6.  IMO, this was a major strategic error as it
not only leaves Plasma-6-users with a bad and obviously hard to fix regression
but also lifted the pressure off the Wayland-devs to finally (!) provide a
basic feature of modern DEs.  

Now it seems that Plasma-6-users are at the mercy of the Wayland-devs (comment
89).

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