https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=340982
--- Comment #254 from Dotan Cohen <kde-2011...@dotancohen.com> --- (In reply to Nate Graham from comment #253) > We can indeed implement option 1 and fix this issue for KDE apps. > Thank you. I'm sure that the two hundred people here commenting, and untold frustrated others, appreciate this. > If your perspective is "I would rather have it work the way I want at least > some of the time than none of the time", that's valid. > Thank you. > The problem is that if we make this possible to satisfy those people, we're > making the system more confusing for people who don't have that preference, > or don't even know that that preference is a thing that can exist. > I understand your viewpoint, and I appreciate you conceding that viewpoint to the KDE users who have been begging for this horrible bug to be fixed for years. > Gradually we're trying to move away from what I call "broken promise" global > options: options that are presented as global in scope but really aren't > because they only affect some parts of the system. Experience shows that > these options are a recurring source of bug reports from normal users as > well as picky technical users who care a lot about consistency. > Then maybe just label the feature "KDE Date Format" as that is all that KDE can effect. Or even a stand-alone KDE Settings tool (not in System Settings) to make the change, so that no one will complain that it does not affect the entire System. In any case, that promise is broken already in System Settings in some other places, for instance Windows appearance options do not affect Java nor WXwidgets applications. > When we can't fully get rid of kinds of options, we try to add textual > explanations, but even those are imperfect. Experience also shows that even > if we did something super in-your-face and added a giant banner in the > Region & Language KCM that said: > > "ALERT! Changing this only affects KDE apps! It will not affect the way > dates are expressed in any non-KDE app such as Thunderbird, Firefox, Chrome, > LibreOffice, and Blender" > > ...then I can 100% guarantee you that we would *still* get bug reports from > confused users complaining that Thunderbird, Firefox, Chrome, LibreOffice, > and Blender don't respect their date display preferences. And we would have > to explain the underlying reason over and over again. > Then put the options in a KDE Settings submenu, or a standalone KDE settings application to compliment System Settings. But KDE users need this bug fixed. > So for you folks who want it to at least work some of the time because some > is better than none, I understand your perspective, but hopefully you can > see how satisfying this preference would make the system less coherent to > people without that preference. Yes, I see both perspectives. Now which is the lesser evil: KDE applications do not respect cultural date formats and there is absolutely no solution (so KDE apps display their dates wrong), or some people might be confused as to why they need to configure their non-KDE apps' date formats in addition to their KDE date format setting? -- You are receiving this mail because: You are watching all bug changes.
