https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=479317
Bug ID: 479317
Summary: Add a checkbox "this network is metered" with opt-out
below the password prompt
Classification: Plasma
Product: plasma-nm
Version: master
Platform: unspecified
OS: Linux
Status: REPORTED
Severity: normal
Priority: NOR
Component: applet
Assignee: plasma-b...@kde.org
Reporter: amanita+kdeb...@mailbox.org
Target Milestone: ---
Created attachment 164636
--> https://bugs.kde.org/attachment.cgi?id=164636&action=edit
sketch: required entering box yes/no "is this network metered"?
I attach a very ugly concept sketch of this.
The idea:
- Distros need to autoupdate. Relying on people to click "okay" is dumb, people
ignore it and have outdated systems.
- Having updates in the same location as your installed software, especially
when using immutable systems, does not make sense
But the problem: Unlike Android Linux Laptops have no SIM card often, so
typical "metered networks" are not there. On Android automatic updates (as well
as many other things like big media, downloads, etc.) can all just check "is
this device on a metered network?" And if yes, stop doing things
This does not work, as "metered networks" is not simply from another antenna,
but for example a phone hotspot or USB tethering.
Currently (nearly?) no apps use the "metered network" value, which is really
sad. Also it is opt-in, so you may already have used up your 4GB of cell data
for a big System update, without knowing it.
Benefits:
- opt-in: all networks will be seen as unmetered. Adaptive apps will use full
resolution, scheduled system updates will go, scheduled downloads in Kasts etc.
can all listen to this
- opt-out: unless users specify it, no cell data will be used up. This means
that automatic updates may never happen though, if users are lazy and dont set
a value.
Dangers:
- opt-in: all networks are seen as unmetered, so if users are lazy, automatic
updates etc. may eat their celldata
- opt-out: all networks are seen as metered, so lazy users may never get
automatic updates.
So you see, having a button that REQUIRES users to set if the network is
"metered" (with an explanation what this means, like "A metered network may
have restricted volume, for example your phone hotspot") or "unmetered.
Only if Desktops implement this into a GUI, distros can stop using this silly
"do you want to update?" dialog, as its simply a bad workaround for the problem
that updates should be automatic, but may eat your data volume.
And also only if this is implemented apps can start taking this value
seriously. On Android this is brilliant, Apps can stop showing thumbnails,
reduce playback quality, stop automatic updates, automatic downloads of
Podcasts etc.
This is nonexistent on Linux Desktop afaik. And the Setting to set the value in
systemsettings is not accessible at all.
In the attached sketch I used a little box. But maybe there is a better
element, to require users to set a specific value (not opt-in or opt-out but
empty by default and then set to "no" or "yes"). Maybe having two boxes and
clicking one is required?
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