https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=340982

--- Comment #243 from Luca <pg...@duralexnonlex.org> ---
To be honest I don't understand some of the logic in this discussion.

Are we really asking that KDE changes system's locales, making up some
customized/able version? Personally I don't think so.

Several KDE apps provide a kind of TIME INFORMATION. I think we're asking to
make this "time information" customizable. As I see it, this doesn't imply any
POSIX changes. The system's locales offer several fine-grained variables, like
month number or minutes. We're asking that KDE apps allow the users to combine
these pieces of time information from the locale in ways that can be convenient
for different apps.

For instance, I might want the system-tray clock to show "month-day/hour" with
particular separators. Or I might want – for whatever reason – Dolphin to
display the time-information column about files only with "year-day".

It's only natural that different apps, for their very nature, may require
different choices and display of time information. And the user may want to
customize this even more depending on professional use or whatever.

So I don't understand when Nate
(https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=340982#c235) says

"However at the moment KDE's developers do in fact want to have KDE's apps play
nicely with the world around them."

What does "play nicely" mean? I don't think we're asking that KDE apps
internally store – or share with other apps – locales in any strange ways.
We're asking for customizability of how locales info is combined and displayed.

Thunderbird, for example, allows users to display time information in the
"Date" column in a user-defined way
(https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/customize-date-time-formats-thunderbird).
Or, as a different example on the same concept, Emacs let me customize how to
display the file-name information, for example displaying "file-name/[last
folder in folder tree]". This doesn't mean that Emacs is changing the internal
file system.

Why is there so much hang-up about "short-date" and "long-date"? Just let me
customize which time data from the locales I want displayed on a Dolphin
"Modified" column, for instance.

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