https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=368078
--- Comment #18 from Eike Hein <h...@kde.org> --- I'm sorry, I'm just lost in all of this data right now. To make progress, can we try to do this: a) Please get ahold of the latest stable release of Plasma, which contains the fixes made so far, i.e. Plasma 5.8 - if you can't install this easily, you can download KDE Neon User Edition with 5.8 and install wine and Sierra there. From your above comments I currently don't know whether you've re-tested with the new code, and because the fixes fundamentally change how the Task Manager identifies wine client windows, it might well affect any of your wine-related issues. I.e. I don't know if your assessment that "a small piece of the puzzle was addressed" is based on testing or not. b) Using Plasma 5.8, please try to reproduce your problem(s) and see if they remain c) We need to make sure we're on the same page as far as terminology goes. By "group popup", do you refer to the vertical list of task buttons that appears when clicking a group button on the panel, or do you mean the horizontal list of window thumbnails that appears as a tooltip when hovering the group button? Freezes related to window thumbnails may actually be out of the purview of the Task Manager, as they can be e.g. graphics driver related, so to sort this out I need to understand what you mean precisely. I did try to take a look at the video in comment 12, but it was very long and I wasn't sure what the problem was. It would help to supply e.g. time indices inside a video where things go wrong. But again, it would be best to start over on the current code (Plasma 5.8). Thank you for going to the trouble to describe how to obtain Sierra Charts for testing purposes, I'll do that if we can't get ahead with the above approach. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are watching all bug changes.