https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=369866

--- Comment #2 from Tony <jodr...@live.com> ---
....I know.....

I just downloaded a new iso of Neon unstable from here:
http://files.kde.org/neon/images/neon-devedition-gitunstable/current/

 Created a new virtualbox vm and boot it up.The same problem is there "LIVE".
I got the desktop with a black background, unable to right click on it no panel 

Here is what i did.....

I check that the process for "plasmashell" was there, it was but it was marked
as "stopped" under the cpu tab on ksysguard and got automatically killed just a
few seconds later.

Opened up krunner (alt+space) and ran "plasmashell", i got the default desktop
background, can right click on desktop but no panel still.

Added a "default panel", got me back to the "black background state",
plasmashell process is mark  as "stopped" and gets kill a few seconds later.

Ran "plasmashell", added a empty panel, all good, and then added "system tray"
widget, "black background state" again.

Ran "plasmashell", the empty panel shows up but without "system tray", added it
again.........  "black background state".

I literally added all widgets but "system tray" to 2 empty panels, no issues.

So the common denominator in all cases is the system tray widget being present,
that's my reason. 

As for the backtrace, i thought DrKonqi did not run when any of this happens,
it did i saw the process on ksysguard but its window does not shows up.
Clicking "Show application window" does nothing. Dunno if DrKonqi saves
something somewhere that may help, but its process dies as soon as the
plasmashell one does.

Even though i have very little  knowledge about gdb i know how to attatch it to
a process and run "bt". In this case i did that opened up a terminal and ran
"gdb "plasmashell", but when run "bt" all i get is "no stack" before or during
the issue. Also when i run gdb (no process) and then "attach plasmashell" i get
"Illegal process-id: plasmashell" no idea why.

Hope this helps a bit, i know you can do much without a backtrace and even less
if you can't reproduce the issue.

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