https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=369023
--- Comment #5 from YEK <kdenlive.k...@recursor.net> --- Hi Vincent, Thanks for responding quickly to my missive. Also, thank you for agreeing to "set up an oldstable repo." I hope that means one I can download from the Synaptic Package Manager used by GalliumOS (which is an Xubuntu flavor) >> I haven't read your other posts (where?), did you explicit the usability >> problems? No I did not explicitly describe the usability problems. I merely reported the following: https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=364559 "Previously I tried installed Kdenlive from a Terminal but although it installed, it would crash immediately upon launching. In other words, it was completely unusable for me." I was so tired of Kdenlive crashing on me that a couple/few months ago I spent several hours trying to install various versions of Kdenlive from various sources via a Terminal. They all were utterly unusable, therefore I ended up uninstalling them and downloading Kdenlive 16.04.3 from the Synaptic Package Manager used by GalliumOS (which is an Xubuntu flavor). I subsequently figured out how to, for the most part, which actions to avoid so that Kdenlive 16.04.3 would not crash on me. Prior to that, for perhaps a month or so Kdenlive 16.04.3 used to crash on me every 5 to 15 minutes when I was using it. Of course that was both annoying and time-consuming. This bug report includes a video (screencast) I made showing the bug that kept causing my computer to crash: https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=368984 I have used numerous non-linear video editing applications over the years. Frankly, it did not occur to me that overlapping videos in the timeline was causing Kdenlive to crash. It was like imagining that choosing to, say, bold text in a word-processor would cause it to crash. Overlapping videos in the timeline is such a basic operation that I was implicitly assuming that Kdenlive would operate properly when I overlapped videos in the timeline. I was dumbstruck when I realized that overlapping videos was causing Kdenlive to crash. Then when you guys failed to allow for downgrading Kdenlive I assumed I was dealing with teenagers who were just cutting their teeth in the world of application development. Kdenlive is a typical FOSS project: it has (or at least had) many glaring bugs, a mediocre user interface, and pell-mell documentation. Volunteer developers unsurprisingly focus on what they enjoy, developing. Therefore, despite their vociferous assertions to the contrary, usability is almost invariably shunted aside in favor of features. In practice, most developers fail to distinguish between features and benefits despite their ability to stridently trot out their theoretical knowledge of the two terms when confronted with their glaring failure to properly actually distinguish between the two. Ordinary users aren't interested in features per se, rather they normally want benefits. Whereas artists typically worship the gods of grace and beauty, engineers typically worship the gods of truth and power. Typically to both artists and engineers: clients, customers, users, etcetera are merely nuisances to be tolerated while they serve their false gods. In many organizations, the role of of some managers is to persuade artists and engineers to serve clients, customers, users, etcetera. The resulting friction between the two sides typically leads to acrimony. Do you feel any acrimony towards me? Yes. I have managed both artists and engineers. I am accustomed to being disliked by them. The artists and engineers wanted to focus on their craft whereas, like most managers, I needed a product that would serve customers. It is a necessary tension. Ultimately the party that is supposed to win is neither the artist nor the engineer nor the manager but instead the customer. The following comes from: https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=368984 Also, I suppose that Kdenlive would attract many new users if it had a "novice mode" which contained far fewer options. (You might think of this as merely graying out many of the current options although I would suggest they would be actually be removed). Getting up to speed on Kdenlive was a hassle for me. It could have been *much* easier. See: Design for the Novice, Configure for the Pro https://bothsidesofthetable.com/design-for-the-novice-configure-for-the-pro-b259c6b4662a#.ht8klwvqo and The Paradox of Choice https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Paradox_of_Choice If you want me to elucidate any or all of the above ideas please let me know. Thanks, Yekutiel -- You are receiving this mail because: You are watching all bug changes.