https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=457779

--- Comment #2 from nssz4...@anonaddy.me ---
I know how to use my OS just fine, kde is a GUI and is meant to make linux
easier, maybe you guys need to learn how to make better documentation that
gives step by step instructions, since Im only grabbing logs? For example the
debuginfod documents say:

"For packages in the official repositories that support it [1], debug
information can be retrieved directly over HTTP with debuginfod."

So this isnt the main debug program, this program needs another program to
function? Why is your KDE wiki
https://community.kde.org/Guidelines_and_HOWTOs/Debugging only giving me
debuginfod as the program needed since debuginfod doesnt even seem like the
main program, the arch wiki says:

"When looking at debug messages, such as by using gdb on a core dump: "

What is gdp? Is it pertainable to what you guys need for me to get a backtrace?
how do I use that program combined with debuginfod, cant your wiki explain what
debuginfod is, why Im using it, what other programs are needed? You just pasted
a wiki and a program with no explanation on how its pertainable to this
situation.

"Debuggers like gdb can download them automatically."

Once again Is gdp what I use for crash debugging plasmashell? GDBs web page
says it "allows you to see what is going on `inside' another program while it
executes -- or what another program was doing at the moment it crashed." Well
that sounds what I need yet its not on your wiki? Im not going through the
trouble of looking up how to use that if I dont know that is what I need for
kde backtraces specifially. The KDE wiki didnt refer me to gdp only debuginfod.

"If one wants to retrieve the debug symbols for zstd, along with some source
files, one can utilize debuginfod-find:" 
I dont know what debug symbols are or zstd because Im not a pro at debugging,
seems like that info isn't pertainable? This is an example of how all this is
hard to sift through a wiki and what is pertainable for just basic backtrace
grabbing? All you need are logs? Why does this have to be so complex?

Its not good to intimidate people who are trying to learn more about something
by saying, well its not right for you. I want how to get you debug info and
thats all I want to have to look up, the info provided only says details to
those who already know whats going on, which means its poorly written, Wikis
are known to be a rabbit hole of looking up one thing after another and all you
need are logs from me? 

In any case Im sorry for ranting and Im not blaming you specifically for the
documentation or even KDE because it may be partly due to Archs wiki but it all
seems out of context, all you need are logs from users, so where are the simple
step by step instructions, instructions that say  get this program, get that
program, do this and that, and there you have the logs.

In any case the "coredumpctl --reverse list plasmashell" says:

TIME                           PID  UID  GID SIG     COREFILE EXE              
    SIZE
Thu 2022-08-11 16:03:57 EDT   7672 1000 1000 SIGSEGV present 
/usr/bin/plasmashell 61.8M
Thu 2022-08-11 12:14:26 EDT 111726 1000 1000 SIGSEGV present 
/usr/bin/plasmashell 60.8M
Tue 2022-08-09 12:31:15 EDT  50043 1000 1000 SIGSEGV missing 
/usr/bin/plasmashell   n/a
Mon 2022-08-08 21:48:50 EDT  25938 1000 1000 SIGSEGV missing 
/usr/bin/plasmashell   n/a
Sun 2022-08-07 12:25:54 EDT 113652 1000 1000 SIGSEGV missing 
/usr/bin/plasmashell   n/a
Sat 2022-08-06 20:19:24 EDT  63653 1000 1000 SIGSEGV missing 
/usr/bin/plasmashell   n/a
Sat 2022-08-06 16:00:51 EDT   1323 1000 1000 SIGSEGV missing 
/usr/bin/plasmashell   n/a
Sat 2022-08-06 10:29:42 EDT  26168 1000 1000 SIGSEGV missing 
/usr/bin/plasmashell   n/a
Fri 2022-08-05 10:17:17 EDT  19812 1000 1000 SIGSEGV missing 
/usr/bin/plasmashell   n/a
Thu 2022-08-04 23:12:59 EDT  17712 1000 1000 SIGSEGV missing 
/usr/bin/plasmashell   n/a
Thu 2022-08-04 22:45:08 EDT   1317 1000 1000 SIGSEGV missing 
/usr/bin/plasmashell   n/a
Thu 2022-08-04 07:17:01 EDT   1339 1000 1000 SIGSEGV missing 
/usr/bin/plasmashell   n/a
Thu 2022-08-04 06:40:17 EDT  11541 1000 1000 SIGSEGV missing 
/usr/bin/plasmashell   n/a
Wed 2022-08-03 22:36:31 EDT   9208 1000 1000 SIGSEGV missing 
/usr/bin/plasmashell   n/a
Sun 2022-07-31 23:47:06 EDT 218562 1000 1000 SIGSEGV missing 
/usr/bin/plasmashell   n/a
Sun 2022-07-31 06:06:49 EDT 144625 1000 1000 SIGSEGV missing 
/usr/bin/plasmashell   n/a
Wed 2022-07-27 16:04:33 EDT  53387 1000 1000 SIGSEGV missing 
/usr/bin/plasmashell   n/a
Wed 2022-07-27 14:49:30 EDT  43952 1000 1000 SIGSEGV missing 
/usr/bin/plasmashell   n/a
Wed 2022-07-27 12:43:49 EDT  34287 1000 1000 SIGSEGV missing 
/usr/bin/plasmashell   n/a
Tue 2022-07-26 20:48:41 EDT   9187 1000 1000 SIGSEGV missing 
/usr/bin/plasmashell   n/a
Tue 2022-07-26 19:17:30 EDT   9317 1000 1000 SIGSEGV missing 
/usr/bin/plasmashell   n/a
Mon 2022-07-25 01:11:49 EDT 486414 1000 1000 SIGSEGV missing 
/usr/bin/plasmashell   n/a
Sun 2022-07-24 21:22:34 EDT 137258 1000 1000 SIGSEGV missing 
/usr/bin/plasmashell   n/a
Wed 2022-07-20 21:21:30 EDT  18397 1000 1000 SIGSEGV missing 
/usr/bin/plasmashell   n/a
Wed 2022-07-20 08:35:08 EDT   1386 1000 1000 SIGSEGV missing 
/usr/bin/plasmashell   n/a
Wed 2022-07-20 03:07:54 EDT  42221 1000 1000 SIGSEGV missing 
/usr/bin/plasmashell   n/a
Mon 2022-07-18 13:13:22 EDT   1357 1000 1000 SIGSEGV missing 
/usr/bin/plasmashell   n/a
Sat 2022-07-09 19:53:07 EDT 116642 1000 1000 SIGSEGV missing 
/usr/bin/plasmashell   n/a
Sat 2022-07-09 19:29:04 EDT 115297 1000 1000 SIGSEGV missing 
/usr/bin/plasmashell   n/a
Fri 2022-07-08 22:05:38 EDT  95959 1000 1000 SIGSEGV missing 
/usr/bin/plasmashell   n/a
Thu 2022-07-07 22:48:16 EDT  71862 1000 1000 SIGSEGV missing 
/usr/bin/plasmashell   n/a
Thu 2022-07-07 21:00:01 EDT  70440 1000 1000 SIGSEGV missing 
/usr/bin/plasmashell   n/a
Thu 2022-07-07 18:04:13 EDT  65509 1000 1000 SIGSEGV missing 
/usr/bin/plasmashell   n/a
Wed 2022-07-06 22:07:26 EDT  51473 1000 1000 SIGSEGV missing 
/usr/bin/plasmashell   n/a
Wed 2022-07-06 19:44:57 EDT  45809 1000 1000 SIGSEGV missing 
/usr/bin/plasmashell   n/a
Mon 2022-07-04 21:33:48 EDT  16760 1000 1000 SIGSEGV missing 
/usr/bin/plasmashell   n/a
Wed 2022-06-29 21:29:28 EDT   1415 1000 1000 SIGSEGV missing 
/usr/bin/plasmashell   n/a

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