https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=415164
Jakob Petsovits <j.acco...@petsovits.com> changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- CC| |j.acco...@petsovits.com --- Comment #2 from Jakob Petsovits <j.acco...@petsovits.com> --- > that so many distros force that yakuake nonsense down users' throats > is quite outrageous. Serious people don't need a gamified console. > Run with # konsole --background-mode # parameter, Konsole offers > that popup feature already. This is good information, and new to me. Thanks for pointing it out. That said: If Konsole offers Yakuake functionality then it very much doesn't make its existence obvious or how to use it. No mention of it in the menu, in the settings dialog, no entry in the "Configure Shortcuts..." dialog containing the strings "popup", "appear", "front", "open", "toggle", "retract" or "background". Even if I know about the existence of the --background-mode, I had to remember that there's a --help option to figure out the standard shortcut, then verify that F12 is indeed not present in the shortcuts dialog, which helps me (as somewhat veteran KDE user) to realize that it must be in the Global Shortcuts KCM instead. Compare that to an app that advertises its visibility-toggle capability in the app description, tells you on first startup what its toggle shortcut is, offers positioning sliders in its settings dialogs and its open/retract shortcut in its main shortcut dialog, oh yeah, and can disappear upon losing focus. Nothing against Konsole, but as it stands right now there's still a place for Yakuake for slightly less "serious" users. All of that said, shouldn't this be a Yakuake bug rather than a Konsole bug? If it's going to use Konsole shortcuts, ideally it would let me configure those inside Yakuake itself. Maybe it can unassign the default konsolepart shortcut when I choose it for a Yakuake-specific action? Or maybe it's more suitable as a task for KDE Frameworks to tell me what the conflicting pieces are - it would be really nice to know it's coming from Konsole's shortcut list so I didn't end up searching the global shortcuts KCM in vain. Bonus points if the dialog didn't just point out that there's a conflict, but actually lets me choose which one of the two actions to execute. That would be way more useful than the current incarnation of the shortcut conflict dialog. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are watching all bug changes.