https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=394119
--- Comment #15 from Ville Aakko <ville.aa...@gmail.com> --- So, to recap: I believe there are actually two parts to the problem here; 1) An application wanting attention, causing *task manager* to want attention, and 2) the way any auto-hide enabled panels behave when *any plasmoid* in them wants attention (see the discussion in phabricator; this comments makes more sense as a whole after reading that, too). I believe most people are experiencing this bug because of task manager - the chain of autohide misbehaving in this case is something like this: * Application wants attention -> * Task Manager notices the application and wants attention -> * Panel not autohiding since a plasmoid (Task Manager in this case) wants attention. However, IMHO the panel should autohide no matter what plasmoid wants attention - just that no other plasmoid seems to cause this, or does it only very rarely, should not be a reason to have this prevention of autohide in the first place. That's just weird design - can't think of any reason / situation I'd want to be notified this way! I also firmly believe the behavior user experiences is not something even the developer of a application wanted. Many applications might not even be aware / had nothing to do with KDE/Plasma when they made their application. I'm speculating here: perhaps the whole feature is poorly documented, and/or even misunderstood by developers? In any case, the current situation is a mess, as there is no way for the end user to disable it, and bad assumptions have been made when designing the whole thing. However, it is difficult to say for sure - in case someone knows of some pointers to documentation, which any programmer making an application should adhere to, would be a nice addition to this discussion. It would still be a mess to fix each and every application! I have problems regularly with Steam client, Firefox, and FAHControl (these are just most annoying and often re-occuring examples - there are others). None of these were probably dessigned this way with the intention to clutter user desktop interface! FWIW, I think I've had a few cases of some system tray icon preventing autohide, which I would not have rather had. They have happened only rarely, and I don't remember the details. I don't believe there are any other plasmoids which could seek attention - and if they did, they would certainly be promptly removed from the task bar. Sadly, the task manager is a major point of having the panel in the first place, and there is no good replacement. In summary: I believe this should be fixed at the panel level (not per-plasmoid, as proposed in Fabricator). However, a task-manager specific option would be welcome, too, to at least alleviate the problem. Also, some pointers to documentation would be welcome - is this really something application makers are and/or should be aware of, when making their applications? -- You are receiving this mail because: You are watching all bug changes.
