https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=361231

--- Comment #5 from cameron...@poczta.fm ---
(In reply to Thomas Lübking from comment #3)
> if kwin froze, you could not have opened the "activity monitor" or anything
> - maybe start by by identifying the problem correctly?

I did not say kwin_x11 got frozen, it says in systemmonitor that it is stopped
and Plasma freezes then, so windows' title bars vanish, desktop effects turn
off and sometimes desktop wallpaper vanishes (leaves black background) and
plasma bottom panel vanishes. I cannot do anything with my cursor on frozen
plasma or windows, but YES(!), I can open "activity monitor" (systemmonitor)
with no title bar by using keyboard combination CTRL + ESC. Then I can kill
stopped kwin_x11 and start new one with krunner and then Plasma and opened
windows unfreeze and I can use cursor to operate on them. If you still do not
believe then you have some learnings to do ;)

(In reply to Thomas Lübking from comment #3)
> eg. provide backtraces of the crashes,

How do I do that exactly? I'm not familiar with this :(

(In reply to Thomas Lübking from comment #3)
> But your problem will likely be
> >  when I connect my second monitor through HDMI
> because that's completely broken in every qt5 client (bug #341497)

This is not connecting to monitor through HDMI fault (if that is what you are
imposing), cause today I never connected my monitor with HDMI and kwin_x11
crashed on me 2 or 3 times already!!! :(

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