https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=399967

Nate Graham <n...@kde.org> changed:

           What    |Removed                     |Added
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             Status|REPORTED                    |RESOLVED
                 CC|                            |n...@kde.org
         Resolution|---                         |INTENTIONAL

--- Comment #2 from Nate Graham <n...@kde.org> ---
(In reply to Tyson Tan from comment #0)
> 1) Changing Dolphin's sidebar affects something else outside of it. This is
> not something a normal user would expect.
Actually the whole Places panel is global in scope by default. It's not
*Dolphin's* Places panel, it's *the* places panel. The data is shared acros
Dolphin, the open/save dialogs, Gwenview, Kickoff, and any other app that has a
Places panel in it. Changing anything in one affects them all--unless you do
what Kai indicated and make entries show up only in one. I don't think this is
at all unexpected. In fact, it's the way macOS handles its own
places-panel-like-thing.

> 2) It gives the impression of an unreliable Application Launcher. Because
> the user never changed anything in Application Launcher and yet it "changes
> itself".
Almost *everything* in Kickoff changes without explicit user intervention.
Installing apps creates new app entries; opening and saving documents changes
the contents of the History tab; the Computer tab changes according to the
state of the global Places panel, etc. I think it's pretty well understood that
Kickoff is an aggregator of information that comes from elsewhere.

> 3) Dolphin has more vertical space in its sidebar. Naturally it can display
> more, or we can even say it MUST display more, otherwise it looks
> uncomfortably barren;
This depends on the Dolphin window's height, which is user-selectable.

> 4) Application Launcher's Computer tab has so little vertical space, with 3
> slots already occupied by System Applications. We cannot display a lot items
> on it, otherwise it forces the whole thing to scroll around. It doesn't look
> very tidy nor reliable like that.
You said that the Places panel in Dolphin's sidebar looks "uncomfortabl[y]
barren" when there's a lot of empty space, but that Kicker has "so little
vertical space" and "forces the whole thing to scroll around", looking "[not
very] very tidy nor reliable like that". It sounds like what you want is a
Places Panel view that is always perfectly sized to accommodate the number of
entries, which is impossible because the number of entries is user-selectable.
Can't have it both ways: there will always be a scorllbar when there's too much
content to display, or empty space when there's not much content. This is the
nature of user-selectable data and scrollable views.

> 5) By making Dolphin's sidebar and Application Launcher's Computer tab being
> managed separately, we can fine-tune items being shown for each of them.
> They are very different beasts and I suggest we treat them differently.
As Kai pointed out, this is already possible.

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