https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=424723
--- Comment #24 from dirkjan <[email protected]> --- Nate, thanks for clarifying. I ended up looking through those bug reports and see you made one too. >From 511966: > because using the keyboard shortcut for any of the above actions does not > target the folder, but rather enters selection mode. This is really annoying no offense, but you're so close to the simpler conclusion that the real problem isn't that the folder isn't selected. The real problem is the 'selection mode' idea. If you can go and find a nice old distro with konqueror file browser you'll see how that is. Going "UP" via the keyboard makes the folder you just came from marked, NOT selected. What this means in the original design (decades old) is that it is available for keyboard actions, but NOT for mouse actions. This is what dolphin broke. And that is the core of the problem. If I go "up" and the dir is only marked, then pressing enter enters it again. Or if you hit F2 (to rename) it used to directly rename. Same with delete, if would actually delete the item without needing to select it. But if you were to hit the toolbar button with the mouse, it would not. See the idea here? Two flows for two very different ways of working. With the revert you have re-introduced the issue that a mouse user using the mouse to go up (breadcrumps bar) gets a selected item of something they never selected. Your way of working you described in 511966 has been broken not because of this issue, it is broken because F2, and space broke from the decades old tradition of how marked items are used, marked is for keyboard uses the "current" item, it doesn't require further selection. They should act on the marked item when used from the keyboard. Ask yourself, why does 'enter' allow you to enter a folder without selecting it first, but F2 doesn't act on the exact same marked item? That is the basic inconsistency you are noticing and why it doesn't work like you want. The exact same issue presents itself with del and shift-del. Keyboard navigation is made inconsistent in Dolphin and your discomfort is the result of that inconsistency. Pressing Enter on a marked file/folder opens it, pressing F2 to rename it should work on the single marked file too, because that is consistent. I mean, I've always thought people rarely use dolphin with the keyboard. Some stuff has improved over the years, but the selection mode really isn't making me happy. And still a lot of obvious issues remain for daily keyboard users. Like tab fails to leave the files area (even if you have no split) making it impossible to reach the Places. Using F6 and tab together is confusing (F6, tab tab, F6, what do you expect?). Hitting "alt-l' fails to activate the split button. Keyboard navigation in Dolphin could use a lot of love :-) -- You are receiving this mail because: You are watching all bug changes.
