https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=15329

--- Comment #136 from Simon <[email protected]> ---
(In reply to Nate Graham from comment #127)
> Dug into this a bit, and the current status is that pieces are starting to
> fall into place:
> 
> 1. Qt support for the experimental window positioning-based Wayland session
> restore is in Qt 6.11
> 2. KWin support for it is in 6.4, but currently gated behind two environment
> variables you need to set:
> 
> QT_WAYLAND_ENABLE_XX_SESSION_MANAGER=1
> KWIN_WAYLAND_SUPPORT_XX_SESSION_MANAGER=1
> 
> Once Plasma can depend on Qt 6.11, turning it on by default in KWin becomes
> an option.
> 
> In addition, more pieces need to be implemented:
> 1. Apps need to be launched with their session IDs, so KWin can track them
> 2. Apps need to add some metadata to identify their windows so KWin can use
> the Wayland session restore protocol to track them across launches and know
> what size and position they had when closed.
> 
> #1 will require work in Plasma, KRunner, etc.
> 
> #2 will require work in all apps Why? Because there's actually no way for a
> window manager to persistently identify individual windows across app
> launches without some hints from the apps. Yes, really. It may sound
> unbelievable, but it's true. So apps need to give the window manager the
> proper hints. And that's what #2 entails.
> 
> For KDE apps, this will be relatively easy, as they already use "state
> saver" code that just needs to be adapted to set the right hints for Wayland
> session restore purposes.
> 
> For non-KDE apps, it's gonna be the wild west. Expect many to most apps to
> lag in adoption of this for years and years. So I'm afraid the dream of
> "remember all window positions automatically without apps having to do
> anything" is dead, sorry. I'm renaming this ticket to reflect what's
> feasible.

This is the most straightforward, informative answer I have ever gotten
regarding this issue on any platform. Thank you for laying it out plainly for a
user like me.

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