https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=499825
--- Comment #8 from Grósz Dániel <groszdaniel...@gmail.com> --- (In reply to Nate Graham from comment #1) > Your attachment does not depict symbolic icons but rather *missing* icons. > That's a different issue. The reporter's complaint isn't the screenshot with the missing icons (attachment 174731, where some icons are missing, but the ones that aren't missing are colorful), but attachment 175143, where the missing icons were fixed, but some of the icons that were previously colorful became symbolic. > Why not to ask people first? Many people do not like this behaviour: I like > standard colorful icons in the system tray. I want colorful icons everywhere > back! Could we have the choice please???!!! If it is possible for Kickoff, > why not for the systemtray as well?! To be fair to the designer of the Oxygen icons, Nuno Pinheiro, systray icons were already symbolic in his Air Plasma theme since KDE 4.5. AFAIUI until Plasma 6, Plasma themes shipped their own icons, and Air used symbolic icons for the systray, as did later Breeze. Only with Plasma 6 did systray icons briefly and unintentionally become colorful (and in other cases missing), as Plasma now uses icons from the system-wide icon theme. Then Nuno copied the symbolic systray icons from his Plasma theme into Oxygen and/or drew new icons where needed, which solved the missing icons, and made systray icons symbolic again when using the Oxygen icon theme. > Choice is provided by using an icon theme without symbolic icons. Oxygen is > one such icon theme, so the change should have had no effect for Oxygen. No longer. Nuno solved the missing icons by putting symbolic icons in the Oxygen icon theme for the icons the systray needs, but that also resulted in the systray using symbolic icons again even where colorful icons were already available. Both of the screenshots we referred to were using Oxygen. However, some of us dislike symbolic icons, including on the system tray, and have ever since they were introduced a decade ago. There are probably many of us among those who still use Oxygen. Personally, one reason is that I generally dislike minimalistic aesthetics, but the more important one is that they make it harder to find the icon I'm looking for. With colorful icons I can find an icon with a glance, with symbolic icons I have to focus on each one until I find the one I'm looking for. Someone should do an experiment: I'd bet people take 50+% longer to find a given icon among a bunch of icons if they are symbolic than if they are colorful Oxygen-style icons. Some possible solutions: - Make a version of Oxygen with the symbolic versions of icons removed when a non-symbolic version is available (and perhaps of other icon styles that have some different-looking symbolic and non-symbolic icons, and are likely to be used by people who dislike symbolic icons – so not Breeze). Suggested at https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=486752#c36. - Make versions of Plasma themes that request non-symbolic icons. Suggested at https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=486752#c34. This makes less sense IMO: the preference for symbolic vs. non-symbolic icons is not necessarily related to the preferred Plasma theme, so we'd have to make two versions of every Plasma theme. Also, is this even actually decided by the Plasma theme in the case of the systray icons? - Add a global toggle that makes the icon loader prefer non-symbolic icons everywhere if available, even if the application requests the symbolic one. What the hell, perhaps also add the option to prefer symbolic icons everywhere possible, if there are people who prefer that. - Add a toggle to the systray applet whether you prefer symbolic icons. Depending on it, either use symbolic icons whenever both variants are available, or use non-symbolic ones, specifically in the system tray. This makes sense, as when using the Oxygen style, the system tray is the only place I encounter symbolic icons. (And perhaps a few icons here and there that aren't available in Oxygen so they fall back to Breeze, but those are probably only available in Breeze in a symbolic style anyway.) (In reply to Aleksey Kontsevich from comment #4) > You ask to open new bug: > https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=487026#c10 > then close it - it is boring a lot! As someone who agrees with your request, I tell you that your attitude is uncalled for. This, for instance, was a simple misunderstanding of which screenshot you referred to as the problem. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are watching all bug changes.
