https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=471082

Bernd <bern...@yahoo.com> changed:

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--- Comment #2 from Bernd <bern...@yahoo.com> ---
(In reply to Gabriel Gazzán from comment #0)
> Even so, because usually on image related programs, a guide is almost always
> some kind of visual aid you expect to find overlaid on the image, to help
> you in aligning or distributing elements.
A guide is fixed to the position in the timeline where it was created. It
doesn't move with any of the clips. So from that perspective I think it serves
the same purpose you described for an image related program: It helps to align
other clips across tracks. For example, I could put a guide in all the places
where I want SFX to be added, or where there is a change of scenery and the
music has to change. The color coding helps with quickly identifying those
A marker on the other hand, because they are linked to the clip they were
created in/for and hence move with it, can be used when skimming through the
footage to indicate a future cut or to mark the start of the scene (camera is
rolling already but the director hasn't said "Action!" yet - just as an
example). Or it can be used to mark a section that requires reviewing.

> Another place of confusion is that currently the panel where the user
> manages the markers is named "Guides".
I agree with you on this one: The user interface could be a lot better. Also,
when creating a guide, the default text says "Marker" - it should be "Guide",
of course.

> For all of this, I would find more intuitive (and standard) to refer to
> these guides as "Timeline Markers", as opposed to "Clip Markers" (like other
> video editing programs, as Premiere Pro, already do).
Just because other video editing programs call them markers is no reason to do
the same. I find the use of "guides" and "markers" as identifiers for two
different things (with, granted, the same concept or intent to indicate
something important) quite useful as it avoids confusion: When I tell someone
to set a marker they know immediately what I mean (of course, under the premise
we are all working in and referring to Kdenlive). I don't have to specify to
set a timeline marker or a clip marker.

> As a bonus, options like "Add Marker/Guide quickly" would simplify to just
> "Add Marker quickly"
I give you that, it would indeed shorten that menu entry ;-)

A few things have changed between the 23 and 24 releases of Kdenlive. Can you
check whether the functionality around guides and markers has improved for your
purposes and workflow? Do you want to keep this wishlist item alive? If so,
please set the status of the report to CONFIRMED and change the version to
24.12.0

Thank you very much!

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