Dick,
 Yeah, I checked all files on every account, nothing over/under sized. (I
check this every 2-3 months as normal maintenance)
Thanks for suggesting,
Al

On Wed, Apr 19, 2023 at 8:11 AM Dick Thiot <[email protected]> wrote:

> You might also have a file that is accessed by one of the phantom jobs
> that is poorly sized.
>
> Dick
>
> On Tue, Apr 18, 2023 at 17:50 Alan Metz <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> Yes, I am familiar with wtmp, thanks for the suggestion!  I periodically
>> clear it, now would be a good time to re-visit!!
>> (I also clear /etc/security/failedlogin as it can grow quite large as
>> well)
>> Thanks John
>>
>> On Tue, Apr 18, 2023 at 5:33 PM John Ocampo <
>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> I was on an older version of AIX, and i seem to remember a file called
>>> wtmp that would grow so large it slowed down the login process.
>>>
>>> Not sure if this can help but i figured you should look at that file and
>>> see how large it is.
>>>
>>>
>>> https://www.ibm.com/docs/en/aix/7.2?topic=overflows-resolving-in-var-file-system
>>> Resolving overflows in the /var file system
>>> <https://www.ibm.com/docs/en/aix/7.2?topic=overflows-resolving-in-var-file-system>
>>> Check the following when the /var file system has become full.
>>> www.ibm.com
>>>
>>> ------------------------------
>>> *From:* [email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of
>>> Alan Metz <[email protected]>
>>> *Sent:* Tuesday, April 18, 2023 2:58 PM
>>> *To:* [email protected] <[email protected]>
>>> *Subject:* [EXTERNAL] Re: Jbase Response Delay
>>>
>>>  CAUTION: This email originated from outside of the organization. Do not
>>> click links or open attachments unless you recognize the sender and know
>>> the content is safe.
>>>
>>> Well...
>>> I did some more testing.
>>> btw AIX 6.1, no changes to AIX, and yes, using telnet
>>>
>>> I assume that you have ruled out network configuration changes?  (We did
>>> increase bandwidth across the entire network recently)
>>>
>>>
>>> I removed the SD-WAN network from the equation over the weekend.
>>> I attached my laptop to a switch and the server ONLY to the same switch
>>> - I did notice the delay.
>>>
>>> Tried same setup with a different switch - noticed delay
>>> Tried different Ethernet cable from server to switch - noticed delay
>>> (I wrote a program to track the frequency by Executing a LISTPEQS and
>>> recording the time it took to render the results, if greater then 1 second
>>> I tracked the time - most
>>> iterations are less than 1 second. What I found out was that it appears
>>> a ~40 second delay occurs approximately 5 to 6 minutes apart. (there were a
>>> few 2 to 3 second pauses
>>> between that I excluded))
>>> Event Date  Start Time    End Time    Delay Seconds
>>> 04/18/2023  11:42:10AM  11:42:53AM    43
>>> 04/18/2023  11:47:56AM  11:48:39AM    43
>>> 04/18/2023  11:53:33AM  11:54:16AM    43
>>> 04/18/2023  11:59:28AM  12:00:12PM    44
>>> 04/18/2023  12:05:13PM  12:05:54PM    41
>>> 04/18/2023  12:11:03PM  12:11:39PM    36
>>> 04/18/2023  12:16:53PM  12:17:34PM    41
>>> 04/18/2023  12:22:34PM  12:23:17PM    43
>>> 04/18/2023  12:28:34PM  12:29:16PM    42
>>> 04/18/2023  12:34:05PM  12:34:48PM    43
>>> 04/18/2023  12:39:50PM  12:40:34PM    44
>>> 04/18/2023  12:45:43PM  12:46:26PM    43
>>> 04/18/2023  12:51:26PM  12:52:09PM    43
>>> 04/18/2023  12:57:05PM  12:57:49PM    44
>>> 04/18/2023  01:02:33PM  01:03:16PM    43
>>> 04/18/2023  01:08:26PM  01:09:09PM    43
>>> 04/18/2023  01:14:22PM  01:15:05PM    43
>>> 04/18/2023  01:19:58PM  01:20:42PM    44
>>> 04/18/2023  01:25:42PM  01:26:27PM    45
>>> 04/18/2023  01:31:41PM  01:32:25PM    44
>>>
>>> My question is can I somehow determine if a background process is
>>> causing the hangs?  I do have Phantoms jobs in Jbase running; however, The
>>> code has not changed in years and no new Phantoms
>>> have been added.
>>>
>>> I have added more users on  the network over time, but removing the
>>> network as mentioned above was tested.  Unfortunately, I didn't write the
>>> tracking program until Monday, after the "removing the network" test.
>>> (I will say that the delays didn't appear to be as frequent with just me
>>> and the server test - I suppose I could test that this weekend...)
>>>
>>> I wish I could provide more information, but I don't know what else to
>>> test??
>>> Thanks,
>>> Al
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sat, Apr 15, 2023 at 11:42 AM Kannan Seshadri <[email protected]>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi,
>>> Is it possible for you to execute whatever you are executing directly on
>>> the AIX console with a telnet session?   This will clearly tell you whether
>>> you have a network issue or not?
>>>
>>> Thanks and Regards
>>>
>>> On Sat, Apr 15, 2023 at 6:42 PM Bruce Decker <[email protected]>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Is the delay between the login prompt and the password prompt?  As jimi
>>> asked, more details.
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>
>>> On Apr 15, 2023, at 8:45 AM, Jim Idle <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>> 
>>> I think more details are needed Alan.
>>>
>>> What version of AIX are you running?
>>> Are you really using telnet and not ssh? Telnet is unlikely to be
>>> maintained.
>>> I assume that you have ruled out network configuration changes?
>>> Any upgrades to AIX lately?
>>> Any change to the network load? New devices?
>>>
>>> In the absence of any changes, then I would definitely be looking at
>>> network problems. When you say you tried with just one user, do you mean
>>> literally one device and the server only on the network? If there is a
>>> faulty system somewhere, or malware, then that would still eat your network
>>> Bandwidth.
>>>
>>> Finally, I presume you have done the obvious and rebooted the server and
>>> all the network gear? You’ll probably have to start from first principles
>>> with no devices on the network and gradually add them in.
>>>
>>> On Fri, Apr 14, 2023 at 21:12 Alan Metz <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>> All,
>>>    I have recently been experiencing sporadic response delays when
>>> accessing Jbase, (version 5.6.0.2), from telnet sessions with all users in
>>> my company. At first I thought it was a network issue; however, I have
>>> tested this with only one user and the Jbase server plugged into a switch
>>> and was able to duplicate the hesitation. I am not logging any errors on my
>>> AIX server that would indicate a hardware issue. I am not sure how to
>>> further trouble-shoot this issue and am asking for suggestions.  This
>>> system has been rock solid since 2018.
>>> Thanks,
>>> Al
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