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Tibor Digana edited comment on MNG-5540 at 12/3/13 12:30 PM:
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@Robert
Once we added two artifacts with same groupId and artifactId but two different 
scope (test, compile).
The Maven printed a warning but we had to do it for some reason which I do not 
remember now.

Having different versions/classifiers with different scope is like having 
different modules.
I see that feature you mentioned above very challenging, but due to the 
inheritance in Maven it would be quite risky unless critical bugs are fixed now.

I think the approach in Maven might be similar to other concepts like when you 
have ORM and JAXB namespace just in one XML, and to add an extension into Maven 
which would patch the behavior in the way defined by foreign schema.
When the day comes, the Maven can take over some features or their 
modifications into own schema with new version.

Since the Maven is getting slow, a new kind of extendability of this tool may 
increase the popularity and show the direction with Maven.
The concept of XML structure of a build and life-cycle is revolutionary, the 
same concept stops the ability to extend it.
                
      was (Author: tibor17):
    @Robert
Once we added two artifacts with same groupId and artifactId but two different 
scope (test, compile).
The Maven printed a warning but we had to do it for some reason which I do not 
remember now.

Having different versions/classifiers with different scope is like having 
different modules.
I see that feature you mentioned above very challenging, but due to the 
inheritance in Maven it would be quite risky unless critical bugs are fixed now.

I think the approach in Maven might be similar to other concepts like when you 
have ORM and JAXB namespace just in one XML, and to add an extension into Maven 
which would patch the behavior in the way defined by foreign schema.
When the day comes, the Maven can take over some features or their 
modifications into own schema with new version.

Since the Maven is getting slow, the extendability of this tool may increase 
the popularity and show the direction with Maven.
The concept of XML structure of a build and life-cycle is revolutionary, the 
same concept stops the ability to extend it.
                  
> Simplyfied form of overridden scope on transitive dependencies
> --------------------------------------------------------------
>
>                 Key: MNG-5540
>                 URL: https://jira.codehaus.org/browse/MNG-5540
>             Project: Maven 2 & 3
>          Issue Type: New Feature
>          Components: Dependencies
>    Affects Versions: 3.1.1
>            Reporter: Tibor Digana
>            Priority: Critical
>
> I am thinking of a new feature since Maven's exclusion are two steps process 
> in practice.
> In order to change the scope from compile to provided on transitive 
> dependency you exclude dependency via
> {code:xml}
> <dependencies>
>  <dependency>
>  ...
>  <exludes>
>   <exclude>
>    ... transitive dependency ...
>   </exclude>
>  </exludes>
>  </dependency>
> </dependencies>
> {code}
> Then put such transitive {{</dependency>}} with {{scope=provided}} which was 
> excluded above.
> {code:xml}
> <dependencies>
>  <dependency>
>  ...
>  <scope>provided</scope>
>  </dependency>
> </dependencies>
> {code}
> This is waste because you have to touch the exc.dependency twice and the POM 
> xml is getting huge.
> Maybe another syntax would simplify:
> {code:xml}
> <dependencies>
>  <dependency>
>   ...
>   <includes/>
>    <include/>
>      ... transitive dependency ...
>      <scope>provided</scope>
>    <include/>
>   <includes/>
>  </dependency>
> </dependencies>
> {code}
> Validation should fail if no such transitive dependency in includes section 
> is specified for the wrapping dependency.
> If the transitive dependency is specified in other sections or inherited, the 
> scopes should be merged.

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