I got 4486.774053718782 as *accuracy* for my desktop computer *without*
GPS. That should be in meters.
<https://developers.google.com/maps/documentation/geolocation/overview> I
think you're on to something, Mogans. - *THANK YOU VERY MUCH!*

Den fre 4 feb. 2022 kl 17:52 skrev Rune Back <[email protected]>:

> "...unsuccessfully..." ...maybe so ... .... ........ ...... ..... . .....
> ... ... .. "*...returned **accuracy...*" ... I think I understand now
> what you're getting at. *Very *interesting. I haven't thought of that. I
> will try it out!
>
> Den fre 4 feb. 2022 kl 14:39 skrev Mogens Beltoft <[email protected]>:
>
>> I was trying (unsuccessfully) to explain that Geolocation API does not
>> provide the information you want, but you might have significantly
>> different values for accuracy, whether you have a GPS location or not.
>> So maybe you could differentiate between GOS and non-GPS locations.
>> This is of course only valid for web stuff. If you go native programming,
>> then you might have other possibilities.
>>
>> /Mogens
>>
>> On February 4, 2022 at 12:31:31 pm +01:00, Rune Back <[email protected]>
>> wrote:
>>
>> Yes, of course, but that's not the issue. - As a programmer of a site or
>> an APP, you can (with the surfer's permisssion) get the GEO location of the
>> surfer using the information of his/her browser. Period. No hacking. The
>> information is exact if and only if the surfer's device *has a GPS*. If
>> not so, the GEO location will instead be the GEO location of some
>> telecommunication mast of your Internet provider, and that mast may be 100s
>> of miles away. - My question is: Is it possible to discern (as a
>> programmer) if the GEO location comes from the user's *device **or* from
>> the *operater's mast*?
>>
>>
>> Den tors 3 feb. 2022 kl 20:46 skrev Mogens Beltoft <[email protected]>:
>>
>> Hi!
>>
>> To my knowledge you only have the Geolocation API to get any information
>> from:
>> https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/API/Geolocation_API
>>
>> There are no properties to indicate what kind of position you receive,
>> but you can request a position, and maybe use the returned accuracy to tell
>> whether you have a GPS position or not.
>>
>> /Mogens
>>
>> On 03/02/2022 10.27, Rune Back wrote:
>>
>> Hi!
>>
>> I'm sitting at a desktop computer writing this, because I like working
>> with its' large keyboard and large screen. If I with my desktop computer
>> use one of my APPs that has GEO location, it'll claim I'm in Helsinki or
>> Tampere, 100s of miles south from where my beloved hometown and office are
>> located.
>>
>> The reason is probably that my desktop computer has no GPS, so my GEO
>> location has more to do with the mobile operator I use than with my actual
>> location - but the *reason *is of no importance to me. - *I would like
>> to discern (using JavaScript?) if someone using my APP has a device that
>> has GPS or not.* This matter is of much importance when an APP uses GEO
>> location. - Does anyone have an answer to this, or knows a source where the
>> answer might be found?
>>
>> All the best (in spite of the Corona)!
>>
>> Rune
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