> QMenu are just “custom drawn widgets” not native widgets. 
got it, that explains that.

>>> Instead look into QMenu::aboutToShow and QWidget::closeEvent
>> does that work for the ENTIRE menu bar browsing workflow?
>>  
>> ie: get a "start" message when the user clicks the first time in the menu 
>> bar, and the user can then browse through all available menus if they like, 
>> and when they're done, whether they click OFF the menu bar (choosing no menu 
>> item) or if they do happen to pick a menu item, then i get one "finished" 
>> event message?
>>  
>> cuz that's what i need.
> Not quite sure what you need, but you will get a signal before the menu is 
> shown
it's not about one menu. it's about the menu BAR. ie: all menus in the menu bar.

i do NOT want an "about to show" for every menu the user browses to within the 
same "menu bar browsing" session. i want one "about to browse menu bar" event, 
and then one "finished browsing menu bar" event when the user either picks a 
menu item or clicks off the menu bar.

i know i can trap all mouse DOWN events, and see if the event is in the menu 
bar. sure. part 1 solved
but how do i know if the user clicks OFF the menu bar (not picking something)?

> You can also setup slots on the individual QActions that are added to the 
> menu.
that's exactly what i do not want to do. this is not about individual menus, 
much less individual menu items (actions)
this is about the global "browse the menu bar" user action.

i guess my question has morphed into: how can I accomplish what i'm after here?

>> Your solution (if it worked) would only work on Windows
>> that's all i care about. no other platform necessary.
> But all of Qt, is based on multi-platform support
it's fine if you care about that, but this is a single platform problem i'm 
solving. it works fine on mac, and i do not have a linux build anyway. (before 
you ask, the problem i'm solving is not part of this discussion)

:)

-dave
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