> Kinda sounds like there should be a QSslCertificate::create() method? That would be awesome indeed.
BTW: I am not the only with that problem - just found this: https://stackoverflow.com/questions/45572440/how-to-access-an-insecure-websocket-from-a-secure-website So - if Qt could make this process more convenient that would be great. Best Alex -- http://www.carot.de Email : alexan...@carot.de Tel.: +49 (0)177 5719797 > Gesendet: Mittwoch, 29. Juli 2020 um 16:46 Uhr > Von: "Jason H" <jh...@gmx.com> > An: "Alexander Carôt" <alexander_ca...@gmx.net> > Cc: "Alexander Carôt" <alexander_ca...@gmx.net>, "Thiago Macieira" > <thiago.macie...@intel.com>, "Paul Pfützenreuter" > <paul.pfuetzenreu...@gmx.de>, "interest@qt-project.org" > <interest@qt-project.org> > Betreff: Re: [Interest] wss:// on localhost > > Kinda sounds like there should be a QSslCertificate::create() method? > > > > Sent: Tuesday, July 28, 2020 at 4:18 AM > > From: "Alexander Carôt" <alexander_ca...@gmx.net> > > To: "Alexander Carôt" <alexander_ca...@gmx.net> > > Cc: "Thiago Macieira" <thiago.macie...@intel.com>, "Paul Pfützenreuter" > > <paul.pfuetzenreu...@gmx.de>, "interest@qt-project.org" > > <interest@qt-project.org> > > Subject: Re: [Interest] wss:// on localhost > > > > > but for now the localhost wss failed again. If you have another hint > > > please let me know - I won't give up ;-) > > > > Eventually I succeeded with this tool: > > > > https://github.com/FiloSottile/mkcert > > > > After certificate generation and installation I was able connecting to > > localhost - very good ! > > > > Now I need to figure how to automize this process on any client's machine. > > > > Further inspiration appreciated - thanks for your help ! > > > > Best > > > > Alex > > > > > > -- > > http://www.carot.de > > Email : alexan...@carot.de > > Tel.: +49 (0)177 5719797 > > > > > > > Gesendet: Dienstag, 28. Juli 2020 um 08:05 Uhr > > > Von: "Alexander Carôt" <alexander_ca...@gmx.net> > > > An: "Mårten Nordheim" <marten.nordh...@qt.io> > > > Cc: "Thiago Macieira" <thiago.macie...@intel.com>, "Paul Pfützenreuter" > > > <paul.pfuetzenreu...@gmx.de>, "interest@qt-project.org" > > > <interest@qt-project.org> > > > Betreff: Re: [Interest] wss:// on localhost > > > > > > Hallo Marten, > > > > > > thanks for your additionl reply ! > > > > > > There are two reasons why I have to use a secure websocket: > > > > > > 1.) In some cases our website connects to our app not on localhost but > > > some other place on the LAN. > > > > > > 2.) Our site is part of a CMS-based project which per default runs with > > > SSL. Changing the specific sites to no-SSL (http) and the corresponding > > > ws leades to mixed content often ignored by the browser. > > > > > > In fact in our current workaroud we redirect to http and run a non-secure > > > ws but this fails for some browsers and especially in context with 1) it > > > fails completely - so I believe there is no other choice than using > > > SSL-Websockets and I am happy that theoretically there is a way to do > > > achieve this is a user-friendly way. However, I am still struggeling. So > > > far this tutorial looked promising: > > > > > > https://www.freecodecamp.org/news/how-to-get-https-working-on-your-local-development-environment-in-5-minutes-7af615770eec/ > > > > > > but for now the localhost wss failed again. If you have another hint > > > please let me know - I won't give up ;-) > > > > > > Best > > > > > > Alex > > > > > > > > > -- > > > http://www.carot.de > > > Email : alexan...@carot.de > > > Tel.: +49 (0)177 5719797 > > > > > > > > > > Gesendet: Montag, 27. Juli 2020 um 15:45 Uhr > > > > Von: "Mårten Nordheim" <marten.nordh...@qt.io> > > > > An: "Alexander Carôt" <alexander_ca...@gmx.net>, "Thiago Macieira" > > > > <thiago.macie...@intel.com> > > > > Cc: "Paul Pfützenreuter" <paul.pfuetzenreu...@gmx.de>, > > > > "interest@qt-project.org" <interest@qt-project.org> > > > > Betreff: Re: [Interest] wss:// on localhost > > > > > > > > Hello Alexander, > > > > > > > > I don't know (or recall) what your setup is like. The following answer > > > > assumes the website you refer to also runs on the local machine: > > > > > > > > Somewhat going in the other direction I'd say wss/https is not > > > > necessary if your application actually only listens to localhost > > > > (127.0.0.1/[::1]). > > > > It won't travel across the network at that point, and if the local > > > > machine is compromised encryption doesn't matter much. > > > > > > > > If you are listening to other addresses as well though (to let other > > > > clients in the network connect as well) then you need to generate > > > > certificates > > > > that includes the hostname or IP of the machine running the server > > > > since "localhost" is no longer enough/correct for that. > > > > > > > > However if the website is remote and you run attempt to connect to a > > > > websocket on the local machine then it needs to be encrypted and > > > > Thiago's > > > > suggestion will get you most of the way. You will also need to get the > > > > OS to trust the certificate for the browser to accept it as well. > > > > Usually with > > > > untrusted certificates browsers will show a warning and let you ignore > > > > it, but that doesn't happen in most browsers when opening a websocket > > > > connection in the background! > > > > > > > > Mårten > > > > > > > > ________________________________________ > > > > From: Interest <interest-boun...@qt-project.org> on behalf of Alexander > > > > Carôt <alexander_ca...@gmx.net> > > > > Sent: Tuesday, July 21, 2020 19:32 > > > > To: Thiago Macieira > > > > Cc: Paul Pfützenreuter; interest@qt-project.org > > > > Subject: Re: [Interest] wss:// on localhost > > > > > > > > Hej Thiago, > > > > > > > > > Whether they work or not is irrelevant, since you shouldn't be > > > > > shipping the > > > > > same certificate to all users. You'd have to make it extremely > > > > > long-lived > > > > > (expiry 20 years from now). Generating a short-lived one (3 months) > > > > > limits the > > > > > damage if it somehow gets misused. > > > > > > > > > > > > just to avoid misunderstandings: The goal is not sending existing > > > > certificates as part of the application download but rather generate > > > > the certificte automatically upon launching the app ? > > > > > > > > > > > > > There are lots of examples on the Internet on how to do this with the > > > > > openssl > > > > > command. You'll have to find out how to do it with the API, if you > > > > > don't want > > > > > to ship the command. > > > > > > > > > > > > If my assumption above is right then any kind of automized process > > > > would be fine to me - e.g. running the openssl command as part of a > > > > script, which is executed before launching the application or probably > > > > generate the certificate within the app code which would be even more > > > > convenient. > > > > > > > > Is this somehow the right track or am I completely mistaken ? Sorry > > > > again - completely new in the domain of security ;-) > > > > > > > > Best > > > > > > > > Alex > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 1) create a private/public key pair (usually RSA, but doesn't need to > > > > > be). > > > > > Creating a private key usually involves random number, so please be > > > > > sure that > > > > > OpenSSL's random generator is properly seeded, if it can't be > > > > > guaranteed to > > > > > auto-seed. Qt's QRandomGenerator::system() is of cryptographic > > > > > quality and > > > > > requires no seeding[*], so you can use it to generate random data to > > > > > seed > > > > > OpenSSL if necessary. RSA key pairs are usually big these days (2048 > > > > > to 4096 > > > > > bits), so you may want to investigate an elliptic curve key instead, > > > > > which > > > > > would reduce the computation time. > > > > > > > > > > 2) create a certificate-signing request (CSR), which contains the > > > > > certificate > > > > > header fields. Notably, it has the CN (Common Name) field, which > > > > > identifies > > > > > which hostnames it applies for. You want "localhost" > > > > > > > > > > 3) sign the CSR. You'll sign with the key used in #1, causing this to > > > > > be self- > > > > > signed. The result is the certificate. > > > > > > > > > > There are lots of examples on the Internet on how to do this with the > > > > > openssl > > > > > command. You'll have to find out how to do it with the API, if you > > > > > don't want > > > > > to ship the command. > > > > > > > > > > For anyone wondering about turning off the SSL error on self-signed > > > > > certificates: self-signing isn't inherently bad. The SSL error comes > > > > > not > > > > > because the certificate is self-signed, but because it's not signed > > > > > by any > > > > > certificate in the Certificate Authority list. The fact it's > > > > > self-signed is > > > > > simply extra information, as it's the most common cause of an > > > > > authority not > > > > > being found. But if you add the certificate itself to the CA list (in > > > > > fact, > > > > > make it the only entry!), then it'll match to a CA and you get no SSL > > > > > error. > > > > > > > > > > [*] this is also why René is having problems with the RDRAND > > > > > instruction in > > > > > the other thread. > > > > > -- > > > > > Thiago Macieira - thiago.macieira (AT) intel.com > > > > > Software Architect - Intel DPG Cloud Engineering > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > > Interest mailing list > > > > > Interest@qt-project.org > > > > > https://lists.qt-project.org/listinfo/interest > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > Interest mailing list > > > > Interest@qt-project.org > > > > https://lists.qt-project.org/listinfo/interest > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Interest mailing list > > > Interest@qt-project.org > > > https://lists.qt-project.org/listinfo/interest > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Interest mailing list > > Interest@qt-project.org > > https://lists.qt-project.org/listinfo/interest > > > _______________________________________________ Interest mailing list Interest@qt-project.org https://lists.qt-project.org/listinfo/interest
