On 11/04/2012, at 5:53 AM, ext Nikos Chantziaras wrote: > On 10/04/12 22:38, Thiago Macieira wrote: >> On terça-feira, 10 de abril de 2012 22.30.54, Nikos Chantziaras wrote: >>> On 10/04/12 22:24, Thiago Macieira wrote: >>>> On terça-feira, 10 de abril de 2012 22.07.49, Nikos Chantziaras wrote: >>>>>> Which is a pity. There's a lot of functionality in the KDE libs that you >>>>>> should use. You should consider transforming your Qt-only app into a KDE >>>>>> one. >>>>> >>>>> That is really bad advise :-/ It would mean non-KDE users (about 90% of >>>>> my userbase) will not use the app. But I still care very much about the >>>>> remaining 10%! But if push came to shove, I'd rather drop KDE (10%) >>>>> than the rest (90% - Gnome, Windows, OS X.) >>>> >>>> That was an ironic way of saying that there's a lot of good things inside >>>> the KDE libraries, so (the next paragraph's message) you should be glad >>>> that some of it is finding its way to Qt 5. >>>> >>>> That said, I don't follow your reasoning. KDE applications run outside of >>>> KDE just fine, so linking to the KDE libs does, by itself, exclude those >>>> other environments. >>> >>> In theory it doesn't exclude them, in practice it does. Gnome users >>> avoid KDE apps like the plague, and telling users to install KDE on >>> Windows would sound just idiotic to them. >> >> If you have to tell your Windows users that, you have the blame: you didn't >> do >> a good job of packaging your application into a nice installer. > > Bundling KDE libs? It's much simpler to not use KDE functionality. > Otherwise you end up with a big size that is unsuitable for small > utility applications. > > And I don't need an installer. People value single executables that can > be copied and run from everywhere (internal hard disks, USB flash > sticks, whatever.) And I'm not sure I could link KDE statically into a > single *.exe like I do with Qt (and if it's possible, it would probably > end up as some 50MB monstrosity or something :-P) > > Also OS X is an issue, and then there's Android (using Necessitas). I > understand that KDE considers itself a high-quality project, but > seriously, it should be avoided for applications that don't explicitly > want to be considered KDE apps and want to also run on non-Linux systems. > > >> As for the GNOME users, they avoid Qt-based applications too. > > Ubuntu ships Qt by default now, so that problem was taken care of. And > besides, installing Qt is acceptable to many users (it's quite small.) > Installing KDE with all its deps is absolutely not OK for many of them.
or any embedded platforms with limited space. > > > _______________________________________________ > Interest mailing list > Interest@qt-project.org > http://lists.qt-project.org/mailman/listinfo/interest Lorn Potter Senior Software Engineer, Core Enablers/QtSensors _______________________________________________ Interest mailing list Interest@qt-project.org http://lists.qt-project.org/mailman/listinfo/interest
