On 05.04.2016 09:34, lst_hoe02--- via Info-cyrus wrote:
 
> The "we generally have to reject all messages which are not secured by SPF or 
> DKIM" mean you want to force others to use non standard headers so in fact 
> you are breaking SMTP RFC.

I think we don't. At least SPF works without additional headers in the messages.

Furthermore, I still can't see how we would break RFCs even if we would "force" 
people to use the DKIM header (in fact, we are not forcing anybody to do so, 
because we let messages pass which have at least *one* of SPF or DKIM passed): 
The RFCs nowhere say that every MTA MUST accept ANY message regardless of the 
sender, connecting server etc. On the contrary, the RFCs explicitly name 
mechanisms (e.g. DSNs) which should be used if a message cannot be delivered to 
its recipient, and people are rejecting messages (and returning appropriate 
DSNs) according to their own policies for decades now.

If you are saying that not accepting *all* messages means breaking the RFCs, I 
disagree.

What I exceptionally like about the way we have implemented the SPF and DKIM 
checks is that the sender gets informed about the problem because he will 
receive an appropriate DSN containing a polite message which explains the 
problem. In summary, I am convinced that our MTA's behavior conforms with the 
RFCs.

> It is your server so your rules, but don't complain if other do not agree 
> with you.

I promise I won't :-)

Regards,

Binarus
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