Andre,

Thanks for the info!! Two questions since sasl is still new to me:

1) How many processes should I have running? Is there an option somewhere to 
adjust this or see it?

2) I installed havaged, but the process instantly crashes and tells me a sub 
system is locked when I try to restart it. Any ideas on that? (On centos 6)


Thanks again!

- Paul

> On Sep 11, 2015, at 2:59 PM, Andre Felipe Machado 
> <andremach...@techforce.com.br> wrote:
> 
> Hello,
> 
> By your numbers it seems that your machine is able to generate random numbers 
> at good speed. But the problem is WHEN and HOW OFTEN.
> 
> Afaik, the linux kernel waits too long to trigger the process to generate 
> random numbers and fast paced process spawning or ssl connections could 
> deplete pool before the process is triggered again.
> 
> This is the problem that haveged could solve. Triggering a random numbers 
> generation at a higher threshold and at higher frequency.
> 
> http://blog-ftweedal.rhcloud.com/2014/05/more-entropy-with-haveged/
> 
> Well, it is only ONE of possible causes of your problem. Unfortunately one 
> obscure and difficult to identify because it does not generate errors, 
> crashes or logs. Simply slowness.
> 
> Had you checked disk latency? Does your servers have enough sasl processes?
> 
> We use Debian and did not find haveged installation issues, so you will have 
> to search a bit more about your running errors.
> 
> Regards.
> 
> Andre Felipe
> 
> http://www.techforce.com.br
> 
>  
> 
> Paul Bronson <signaldevelo...@gmail.com> wrote ..
> 
> Guys,
>  
> I ran cat /dev/urandom | rngtest -c 1000
>  
> and got:
>  
> rngtest: starting FIPS tests...
> rngtest: bits received from input: 20000032
> rngtest: FIPS 140-2 successes: 998
> rngtest: FIPS 140-2 failures: 2
> rngtest: FIPS 140-2(2001-10-10) Monobit: 0
> rngtest: FIPS 140-2(2001-10-10) Poker: 0
> rngtest: FIPS 140-2(2001-10-10) Runs: 1
> rngtest: FIPS 140-2(2001-10-10) Long run: 1
> rngtest: FIPS 140-2(2001-10-10) Continuous run: 0
> rngtest: input channel speed: (min=22.980; avg=501.129; max=19073.486)Mibits/s
> rngtest: FIPS tests speed: (min=98.317; avg=121.603; max=131.541)Mibits/s
> rngtest: Program run time: 198018 microseconds
>  
>  
> Does this look bad to you considering all of my slow SASL auths? (no haveged 
> is on at this point.. available entropy is between 131 - 160... pool size is 
> default 4096.
>  
> I also tried installing haveged, which worked fine, but as soon as I started 
> the service it said something like process dead, sub sys locked... ? Sorry, 
> entropy is fairly new to me.
>  
>  
> 
>> On Thu, Sep 10, 2015 at 5:24 PM, <signaldevelo...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Andre,
>> 
>> Really? What should it be? I was curious and checked.. Entropy on some of my 
>> other big time production servers for email is only about 200) and its 
>> lightning fast?
>> 
>> - Paul
>> 
>> > On Sep 10, 2015, at 5:00 PM, Andre Felipe Machado 
>> > <andremach...@techforce.com.br> wrote:
>> >
>> > Hello,
>> > Entropy of 158 is way too low for production servers. And this *MAY* cause 
>> > weird
>> > slowness without logging any  errors.
>> > You could install "haveged" and configure for max threshold levels on 
>> > production
>> > servers.
>> > https://packages.debian.org/search?keywords=haveged
>> >
>> > Regards.
>> >
>> > Andre Felipe
>> > http://www.techforce.com.br
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > signaldevelo...@gmail.com wrote ..
>> &g! t;> Ru dy,
>> >>
>> >> Entropy is 158 I just looked. And as far as compiling against urandom, to 
>> >> be
>> > honest
>> >> I'm
>> >> not sure.
>> >>
>> >> - Paul
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>> On Sep 6, 2015, at 9:50 PM, Rudy Gevaert <rudy.geva...@ugent.be> wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> Quoting signaldevelo...@gmail.com, Mon, 07 Sep 2015:
>> >>>
>> >>>> Hosts file is fine I checked that, thanks. Kolab uses 389 to
>> >>>> authenticate for everything, so Cyrus is using LDAP as you can see
>> >>>> above. I think the problem lies in the constant TLS logins into
>> >>>> Cyrus for every click:
>> >>>>
>> >>>> imap[2281]: login: localhost [::1] john...@domain.com PLAIN+TLS User
>> >>>> logged in
>> >>>> SESSIONID=<es1.domain.com-2281-1441500890-1-15740725055571902363>
>> >>>> Sep  5 20:54:51 es1 imap[2281]: USAGE john...@domain.com user:
>> >>>> 0.009998 sys: 0.006999
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Again its only one user, on roundcube... I am afraid to put any more
>> >>>> users on it. There doesn't seem to be much of performance tweaks
>> >>>> with Cyrus around the web either...
>> >>>
>> >>> does your system have enough entropy?
>> >>>
>> >>> Is saslauthd compiled against /dev/urandom?
>> >>>
>> >>> Rudy
>> >>>
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