Dear Sarah

thank you for your thorough answer !

maybe we can wait and see if Cyrus 2.3.7 and mupdate
can do the job along with FreeBSD+PEN+VRRPD...i´ll test it.

best regards,

Sarah Walters wrote:
Marcelo et al,
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Marcelo Maraboli

thanks for the input, I know wishing 100% is only available
with a gooooogle size amount of money ;), but I am looking
for a CYRUS IMAP server solution similar to a load balancing
web server farm...i.e:

- a Load balancing server (PEN in Freebsd if you like) that
will direct an IMAP session to ANY of a group of IMAP servers,
all of which have access to a central storage of user MBOXs.

So if any of the IMAP (backend) server dies, the load balancer with
automatically not forward any new requests to that server
and users won´t notice any downtime..

this is diferent from Andrew´s solution number 1, since ANY of
the backend IMAP server should accept connections for ANY user.

examples:
http://siag.nu/pen/vrrpd-linux.shtml
http://redundancy.org/fbsd_lb.html

can IMAP be set up this way ??

regards,


This need is why I suggested beefy servers rather than the Murder, which I 
don't consider sufficiently highly available due to actually being a number of 
discrete servers at the back end. Great for load balancing, useless for instant 
failover in case of server loss.

In short, as I understand it Cyrus cannot be set up this way. Only a single 
machine can have write privileges to the mailboxes database at a time. The only 
way I can see to do this is to use NFSv4 which is supposed to get the locking 
correct. Then, assuming the database is closed between changes (can a developer 
please confirm whether it is kept open by master or not?) you should be able to 
run multiple IMAP servers over the same filesystem stored on a NAS 
(network-attached storage, as opposed to SAN). That is the only way I can think 
of to do what you are after. You would need two NAS boxes, ideally in separate 
buildings, with live mirroring (10 Gb fibre or copper connection between) and a 
bunch of cheap servers in each building all load-balanced. You should be able 
to lose a complete data centre and just keep running at 50% capacity as long as 
your network is properly routed (with redundancy in case of an idiot with a 
spade cutting through your fibre of course).

It's expensive, but it should work if the database is not held open. If it is, 
then you need to look at a different email product. Cyrus is a great server, 
but if you need five 9s reliability then you have to pay for it. You could 
always look at an appliance - dedicated hardware is often more reliable and at 
least if it goes down you can scream at the vendor and cover your butt that way.

Regards,
Sarah Walters
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