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Andrzej Adam Filip wrote:
> I personally prefer to reject spam *in smtp session*.

I'm quite happy with dspam - it catches the majority of my spam and I
haven't had any false positives since I reinstalled it a few months ago.
(Touch wood).

> Any reasonable price anti-spam system will produce some false-postives.
> IMHO it is crucial to make sender know the message have not reached the
> recipeint *WITHOUT* taking over responsibility for delivering bounces.

I probably didn't explain myself very well - it's not spam bounces that
I want to stop.  What currently happens is that sendmail accepts a
message with NULLs in, passes it to dspam which then passes it to Cyrus.
 Cyrus then rejects it and causes sendmail to generate a bounce message.

Unfortunately, most of these message rejected by cyrus bounce messages
seem to be in response to spam (but not always) and hence to
non-existant addresses.  It then sits in the mail queue for days before
making sendmail panic and drop it.

I'm happy for the message to be accepted by cyrus and then, if it is
spam, for dspam to be retrained to quarantine such messages.

> I had to "debug" once delivery from my site to site implementing policy
> of dev nulling messages *classified* as spam. The recipient *WANTED* to
> receive the messages.

After losing some important messages, I'm too paranoid about
/dev/nulling potential spam...  However, I'm definitely going to install
the Clam AV milter and possibly the grey listing one too! :-)

Take care,

Ben
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