[ On Thursday, June 16, 2005 at 14:23:04 (-0700), Philip Edelbrock wrote: ] > Subject: Re: Changing the IMAP server's banner -- does one still need to > patch the source? > > Security by obscurity is bad,
Yes, it certainly is. > but that's not what this is. well if this kind of idiocy is not "security by obscurity" then the only other thing it could possibly be is "security by sticking one's head in the sand". :-) > I still put > my laptop under the car seat before going into the store eventhough the > door locks /should/ be enough. ;') Those kinds of analogies just don't apply in the digital realm. (besides, the door locks are not likely "good enough" (esp. on their own) when the cost, i.e. the risk, to the thief of using a jimmy or cracking your window in broad daylight is far less than the (perceived) benefit of grabbing your shiny new laptop -- proper risk analysis is tricky business (for us humans), especially if you forget to do it from at least the two primary points of view in any such situation) Software vulernabilities don't go away, and their exploit is not prevented in any way, just by hiding what is basically irrelevant information to any attacker. All the attacker needs to know is that they can connect to your IMAP port, and that by nature is impossible to prevent them from learning since doing so would also terminate the service you are providing (i.e. it's equivalent to using the wire-cutter style of "permanent firewall"). Fix the bugs (or don't run the service) -- don't just pretend to hide them, because you cannot. -- Greg A. Woods Planix, Inc. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> +1 416 489-5852 x122 http://www.planix.com/ --- Cyrus Home Page: http://asg.web.cmu.edu/cyrus Cyrus Wiki/FAQ: http://cyruswiki.andrew.cmu.edu List Archives/Info: http://asg.web.cmu.edu/cyrus/mailing-list.html