Marco Colombo wrote:
On Tue, 2005-05-31 at 11:46 -0700, Jules Agee wrote:
Seconded.
info-cyrus is the only list I'm subscribed to that allows posting by
non-subscribers. Maybe it's not a coincidence that it's also the only
list that I get spam & viruses from on a regular basis.

This makes no sense. As I said before, it takes a close-to-zero effort
to forge headers. Subscribers-only or open, it's a matter of list
_policy_. It may have a minimal effect of reducing spam, but that's not
the point. If you want to stop spam, use a specific filter. Bypassing
the subscribers-only check is trivial.

What you are saying is technically correct. But there is a caveat. I am subscribed to about two dozens list (more ? I lost count), and the only one I am getting spam from is info-cyrus. It's also the only one that I aware permit posting by non-subscriber. So there is a correllation, but are there a causation ? I do not know, it might be a coincidence. But it's one heck of a coincidence.

Also, I do believe that list administrator have a responsability to take measure against abuse of their list. Acting as amplificator for spammer certainly constitute an abuse. I admin a few low-volume myself, and I take spam very seriously. The only list where I permit posting by non-subscribers is moderated. While my list do not have the volume or notoriety of info-cyrus, I can't remember the last time a spam got through one my list.

If forged sender address ever become a problem, I will run my lists through SpamAssassin and moderate high-scoring mail by hand. Simple matter of responsability to my users.
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