reading through whatever I can find, I'm starting to wonder if there is a bug in lmtp that I'm taxing :( using 'sendmail -qRscrappy -v' to force delivery, the first message appears to try to go through and then lmtpd dies: mail1# sendmail -qRscrappy -v^M Running /var/spool/mqueue/q00/eBBLcm177295 (sequence 1 of 184) eBBLcm177295: locked Running /var/spool/mqueue/q00/eBBLc2176692 (sequence 2 of 184) <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>... Connecting to /var/imap/socket/lmtp via cyrus... 220 mail1.hub.org LMTP Cyrus v2.0.7 ready >>> LHLO mail1.hub.org 250-mail1.hub.org 250-8BITMIME 250-ENHANCEDSTATUSCODES 250-AUTH PLAIN DIGEST-MD5 CRAM-MD5 EXTERNAL 250 PIPELINING >>> MAIL From:<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> BODY=8BITMIME 250 2.1.0 ok >>> RCPT To:<scrappy> 250 2.1.5 ok >>> DATA 354 go ahead >>> . >>> QUIT <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>... Deferred: Connection reset by localhost Running /var/spool/mqueue/q00/eBBLcn177299 (sequence 3 of 184) <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>... Deferred: Connection reset by localhost Running /var/spool/mqueue/q00/eBBLcn177303 (sequence 4 of 184) or, at least, that is what I'm guessing its doing ... and then all subsequence attemps get the same message ... does this provide anything that helps point me in the right direction? thanks .. Marc G. Fournier ICQ#7615664 IRC Nick: Scrappy Systems Administrator @ hub.org primary: [EMAIL PROTECTED] secondary: scrappy@{freebsd|postgresql}.org