On 8/26/2011 11:14 PM, [email protected] wrote:

> +1. If you want signatures, do them properly. Don't pretend a transfer
> protection mechanism covering exactly one hop provides real object security,
> because it doesn't.

I could have sworn that TLS was an e2e mechanism.  Maybe you're using
the term "hop" in a manner unfamiliar to me?

> And as for the "encrypt so the really secret stuff doesn't stand out" 
> argument,
> that's fine as long as it doesn't cause inconvenience to anyone. That's 
> clearly
> not the case here. And I'm sorry, the "mistakes were made" notion doesn't
> really fly: Certificates aren't a "set it and forget it" thing, so if you
> haven't noted expiration dates on someone's to-do list so they can be updated
> before expiration, you're not doing it right.

Isn't "not doing it right" pretty much the definition of "mistake"
(assuming no evil intent)?
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