Re: recommendation against publication of draft-cerpa-necp-02.txt

[Peter Deutsch in Mountain View]

Keith Moore wrote:

> > The industry and their customers have already decided against you on
> > this one.
>
> Industry people love to make such claims.  They're just marketing BS.
> The Internet isn't in final form yet and I don't expect it to stabilize
> for at least another decade.  There's still lots of time for people to
> correct brain damage.

Well, I don't share the view of a monotonic march towards the "correct" Internet.
Just as the first single celled giving off massive amounts of waste oxygen created
an environment which led eventually to the furry mammals, the Internet responds and
evolves from instantiation to instantiation. I hear talk about products which people
expect to only have a lifetime of a few years, or even a period of months, until
evolution moves us all on. Some of the things that you find so offensive may not
even be relevant in a couple of years.

But (you knew they'd be a but, didn't you?) there is a substantial market for
products based upon interception or redirection technologies today. I don't offer
this as a technical argument for their adoption. I was merely pointing out that the
market has voted on this technique and judged it useful despite what the IETF might
or might not decree. Short of punishing those poor misguided users, I don't know
what else you can accomplish on this one...


> > I'm wondering about the future of an IETF that consistently takes itself
> > out of play in this way.
>
> IETF's job is to promote technical sanity, not to support unsound vendor
> practices.

Well there you go. You think the IETF's Seal of Approval and promotion of technical
sanity can prevent our unsound vendor practices  from perpetrating Marketing BS on
poor users. You're right - the positions are fairly clear at this point. I'll try to
quieten down now...


                                                                  - peterd