When's the last time Valve has thought of us and included community
enhancement features for the server communities out there?
Everything i think they have done for us has been crippling.


On Thu, Jan 23, 2014 at 8:37 PM, Jason <[email protected]> wrote:

> Because it's becoming apparent that Valve isn't that concerned about the
> "communities".....wonder if there were a large number of server owners who
> decided to boycott for a weekend or week and take down all their servers.
>  I know, I know .... it would "punish" the general player and most server
> owners wouldn't want to shoot themselves in the foot.....but there has to
> be *something* the general server owner community, who are a major backbone
> of the tf2 servers out there, can do (or not do) to send a message to valve
> that they are slowly killing the communities that help bring in the revenue
> they so enjoy (hats, etc).  I simply don't understand why for the sake a
> few, the masses are handcuffed..... /end rant
>
>
> On Thu, Jan 23, 2014 at 8:32 PM, Yun Huang Yong <[email protected]
> >wrote:
>
> > +1
> >
> > I don't understand what seems to be a general stance of "we have a few
> bad
> > actors therefore we should change feature X to the detriment of
> everyone".
> >
> > First it was the MOTD.
> > Now it's Quickplay.
> >
> > Why is the approach not to identify & specifically punish bad actors?
> >
> >
> > On 24/01/2014 12:24 PM, Chris Oryschak wrote:
> >
> >> Agreed.  Why don't you punish the communities/servers that are abusing
> >> this.  Every step a good community takes moves forward to attempt to
> >> retain
> >> the player gets flushed down the drain with these changes.
> >> Quickplay is ultimately useless for any community, unless you are valve.
> >>
> >> I currently have 235 players on my servers right now, of all of those
> only
> >> 23 players are from quickplay.  Seriously running servers for this game
> is
> >> slowly becoming unenjoyable as a hobby.
> >> One day they will hopefully realize that the communities they are truly
> >> hurting are the ones that helped make them $139mil last year.
> >>
> >>
> >> On Thu, Jan 23, 2014 at 8:11 PM, Doctor McKay <[email protected]>
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >>  Why?
> >>>
> >>> Adding a "Valve servers only" checkbox (that's checked by default) is
> >>> going
> >>> to hurt enough (and only those communities that are playing by the
> rules;
> >>> cheating communities will just steal *more* traffic from the legitimate
> >>> communities).
> >>>
> >>> It's now all but impossible to try to retain a client who joined via
> >>> Quickplay (and those are the clients we *need* to retain). We can't
> show
> >>> them our website. We can't even allow them to use a menu to jump to
> >>> another
> >>> one of our servers anymore.
> >>>
> >>> Please think about what you're doing. If your intention is to harm the
> >>> good
> >>> communities, you're doing a fine job at it.
> >>>
> >>> Dr. McKay
> >>> www.doctormckay.com
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